what if laziness is a myth tho

its your will to do what it is your doing

Who cares about future when they can just have fun.care-free? Even if they run out of money and can't maintain their house or a place to stay. That's neutral nihilism.

Some notable Hedonist philosophers: Hegesias the Death Persuader, Aristippus of Cyrene, Aristippus the Younger, Theodorus the Atheist, etc.

oh no.... its @Happy Humble Hermit

@Iheanacho Even a hedonist can create a calculus that will allow them to want a greater pleasure in the future than a less greater one in the present.

Research hedonism.

Some hedonists even believe that intellectual pursuits are quite pleasurable and make them consistent with the want of pleasure in life.

you know what's an anti hedonist film > HELL RAISER

lmao

What up homies

Sup.

Or is it perhaps the most hedonistic film ever especially if you are a masochist lol

true. that guy got every thing he wanted, until he was dragged to the other dimension . LOL.

lmao

Keep in mind, I'm not even a hedonist, per se. I'm skeptical even of pleasure.

never thought id hear that from a human. Skeptical of pleasure ? like Earned pleasure? Free Pleasure ?

All of it.

Even of the sensation, even orgasm.

All Pleasure ?? So is it your Pleasure to Escape Pleasure ??

Is it that I am escaping, or that I'm not convinced that pleasure is worth seeking?

For all that seek pleasure, could seek pain.

if its not worth Seeking, What is the Equivalent of pleasure Worth seeking in your value?

So does Pain Feel Good?

Its weird... the line between pleasure and pain becomes blurred.

Some people need to feel humiliated in order to achieve orgasm.

LOL, have you ever touched something hot and cold on metal, it gives you pain and relief at the same time, exactly what your talking about

Or if you have a sex fetish where you like you like to have your head squeezed by a woman's thighs because it makes you hard.

See this why I have focused most attention and support with the MGTOW community. They are more focused and more organized than nihilism and they seem to be only ones that will actually call out misandry and injustice indiscriminately, not just from feminists. Tell me what faction that is not a pro-feminist sanctuary will criticize traditionalists, particularly female ones?

It's just impossible for nihilism to do anything like that. Everyone is on their own - a free-for-all environment. No true allies.

Though, I've longed given up hope in allegiances and often fought my battles single-handedly.

I think that you may be arguing too strongly lol

... dude this is a general discord. anything goes man. HAHA

But I do still analyze and salvage info from all of these other movements.

Perhaps MGTOW, MRA and anything else thought of in the 2000+ years is simply not good enough.

MRM, not MRA.

And I am just saying in general my two-cents about nihilism and it's cons.

Perhaps we need simply newer and more radical ideas that can achieve what people want without the pitfalls of what has previously been theorized.

It's far from perfect, but it is necessary for me.

@Seven Of Swords , Pleasure is not just about sexual arousal pleasure tho. you could get pleasure from eating ice cream too

Perhaps the idea that things are necessary is yet another pitfall.

@ZODD But what about ice cream headaches?