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Do we have moral knowledge?

Morals are constructed, unlike gender. Just my take.

Hmm... So if someone says that "it is moral to believe that gender is not constructed", does that mean that believing as such is merely a construct as well?

Could well reflect their moral state. The assertion from Hamlet "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so" resonates with me but certainly not some who think there is a metaphysical moral fabric.

Interesting... so, is it wrong to believe that gender is only constructed?

For sure though, you have your own value system and matching your moral framework to that and actually acting in accordance with it will give you a peace of sorts. Part of going your own way isn't it? I feel paying 10k for an engagement ring to throw on a woman's hand for the purpose of gloating and status is nonsensical and immoral, so doing such a thing for conformity's sake will tear at my own constructed moral fabric.

I don't believe in moral theories or values. And I don't find simply caring for others to be sufficient enough to guarantee a moral framework... I have come to abandon value belief systems. They all fail.

Ergo the question, do we have moral knowledge?

Maybe you agree with Shakespeare? "Nothing either good or bad" ...but...Some have "moral knowledge" of what is right and wrong in their own realm, "thinking makes it so."

You probably have some sense of what is moral to yourself, but you can also end up feeling like shit living in a way not befitting your own (unrealized) moral sense. It is possible to develop a moral knowledge that fits your understanding of the world and to some extent influences your behaviour. Some of us are less certain of our righteousness, while some have no problem chopping off heads for videos in accordance with their own moral superiority.

All of those would imply that those people would have moral knowledge of some sort, but how do they know that exactly?

How does anyone know if raping someone is worse than donating to charity?

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They do not. They may only know that their moral sensibilities align with their values.

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But how does one know what one's values are?

Asking ones self

How many times and what if one values one thing at one moment only to abandon it the next?

Experience only, I'd say. Sadly, some receive it from others in the form of religion/politics/"mommy said so"/friends/conformity/TV commercials.

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You only have the moment

Rabbit hole discussion. :)

What if someone values raping children?

Your values will change throughout your life.

You should focus on the moment only

Not what one should or would become later

@BlaqShiep Which moment? The one now or later?

If one values raping children they will be shunned by all

Now is the only moment

So what if people shun them? Why should they care?

You are over complicating now

Who cares what they experience... What do YOU value?

That is what is important

Not sure...

That is for you to find out

I'm not even sure if value is a thing that can be understood...