Yeaa that true

@Mysteriedingens so you think because I am not conforming I am doomed? That everyone is who doesn't? Why the hell would you be stopped by statistics?

And the norm?

But women will try to apper traditional to attrect man

OK, honest question, do you have desire to have children, @Artemis?

Yeah, but the trad thot thing is going away here, women think it's below their level to cook and clean for a guy etc.,

@Artemis Theoretically maybe, but looking for the 1% might not be worth it. There are situations that could change that, but the political climate and laws need to change.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath i have no problem with cooking or cleaning as long as i am the shorter part incomewise

@Kazemaru yes.

Why?

Why didn't have it until now?

fuck thats a good question

Well, Mysteriedingens, we know who happens to be the shorter part incomewise.

It's not a big deal to cook and shit these days, it's not like people cook on wood fires or that one has to cook for several people.

Well, I am 19, still studying and have slightly traditional views regarding kids and marriage. Ideally I would be in my early twenties and have a stable job first. @Kazemaru

Aha!

Aha what? What do you think it tells?

Well, work on finding a man, than having a stable job. A woman doesn't need that for a marriage or a relationship.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath ^

Do you want to be a housewife @Artemis

or do you want to send your child to an institute like kindergarden for nurturing

@Artemis are you a virgin?

@Mysteriedingens I would prefer to not send my kids to kindergarden but instead take care of them myself

Yes

Well, that at least puts you ahead of 90% of the female population

Well, if you're going to do that, you're probably going to have to quit your job, so why do you want a job in the first place?

@Artemis great! You're not completely damaged yet!

>yet

I would go as far as arguing that having children with your first partner, traditional values and proper nurturing will at least bring you far

Doesn't mean it's safe for the guy getting married to her though.

right

Remember ddj words @Mysteriedingens. Even if she marries young, 20 yrs in the future she will desire to "recover what she lost"

There is also no guarantee her first partner would not abuse her pair bonding in the relationship until shes damaged and then we know how it goes usually

Recover what she's lost?

I am willing to take that risk

A virgin thot only increases the strength of the bond, not that it guarantees a stable marriage.

Also, as you said earlier, safety is an illusion

And that is very true

its the system or culture you bring u a women that matters the most,

Yeah.

When it comes to this aswell. There is never a guarantee