Just sayin

@Artemis To me it seems that marriage is the pain medication by the definition of doing damage internally, gradually, slowly, but surely.

Marriage is like prison

Marriage is prison*

in 2018

@Artemis Pain is fine if you learn something after feeling the pain. I don't need to learn to tolerate relationship drama if it's just going to make me do the same mistake again. Society already gives me enough pain and depression, why would I take relationship pains as well?

@Mysteriedingens it sure can be. Especially with that mindset. But who says it _has_ to be that way, definitively?

Well, often times it has been that way.

Why else do you think the marriage rates are low as they are?

@EmptyEagle no one says you need to take that. And also no one says that every person on this planet, at this time, would make you feel like that to such extent, especially if you yourself are 100% honest to yourself

Not just in one country but pretty much the West as a whole.

Statisticly speaking it is this way most of the times, why should i think i am the expection @Artemis

Especially with the divorce laws, Alimony etc, being in favor of women

Why do y'all look at those rates so much? They are true for some people. They don't have to be true for you. That is, unless you want it to be.

Thats a false approach

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath the West, yea...

Tell me if it's only true for some people, why is that a society as a whole has went through that shift?

Statistics are based on real evidences,
you make assumptions based on your desires @Artemis

I can say that I am noticing the same thing happen here as well, a country where it's not as bad as it is in in the West, Yet.

The risks of marriages and LTR in the West are too great to not be ignored, @Artemis

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath 'cause they're blinded by rainbows and faces in windows, to quote TRS

Where do you live @ColdEmbraceOfDeath

India

it will come to you, traditionalism will die off sooner or later in your country as it develops

Dude, it's already dying.

I can see that my Sister and my Cousin pretty much have drunk the feminist Kool-Aid

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath Its just not as bad yet because whoring is socially thrown upon still

Go to any Westernized part of the country, you'll see that there isn't much that is different from the Westernized thot.

Traditionlism won't die just yet

Women will use it

Well, not entirely true, there are plenty of skanks here.

In order to attect males when they seethat their usual BS dosen't work on us

The stigma of pre-marital sex is going away, divorce is no longer stigmatized.

Yeaa that true

@Mysteriedingens so you think because I am not conforming I am doomed? That everyone is who doesn't? Why the hell would you be stopped by statistics?

And the norm?

But women will try to apper traditional to attrect man

OK, honest question, do you have desire to have children, @Artemis?

Yeah, but the trad thot thing is going away here, women think it's below their level to cook and clean for a guy etc.,

@Artemis Theoretically maybe, but looking for the 1% might not be worth it. There are situations that could change that, but the political climate and laws need to change.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath i have no problem with cooking or cleaning as long as i am the shorter part incomewise