for preventing future doxxing purposes, are these chats archived?

Nope, Read Discords TOS

They can get and sell your info.

this is mainly MGTOW discussion correct?

any other MGTOWs discover through the journey the value of saving oneself for marriage?

Marriage is a terrible idea for men. Has allways been a terrible idea since its inception thousands of years ago.

Women dont love . Not in the sense we use the term love in a romantic context.

And that makes perfect evolutionary sense. Men were the ones doing the dying so he coul attach himself to someone longterm, but she had to be ready for the next when he died

brb

Even plato realised that, though he of course didnt have access to the information we have such as evopsych

young...the next time I have sex with a women.....I am married to her

@Deleted User those were your thoughts when young, right?

my thoughts now. when I was young.....I just wanted sex

had a few hookups, a gf back in the 1990's

now? If I have sex again.....I'll be married

We all wanted sexual healing at one point

@Deleted User Would you ever get a vasectomy at age 25 if you KNEW you never wanted kids?

I had one at 45

@machtyn it is reversible, is it not?

it is, but expensive....I don't want kids

not at my age

well id wager if you cant afford having that undone you cant afford kids, either

I wouldn't want kids but I know age 25 is really young so I do still have 2% hesitation 98% certainty.

@Deleted User er ... No, don't marry if you want sex, no matter how hot she is

I could afford kids

Marry only if you desire kids

@Kazemaru Yup!

Even then id advise to look into surrogacy

Or adoption

yeah

Is there any West countrys that allows adoption for single man?

i dont know much about adoption tbh

i know it will be a harder case

Hm... Then, in that case... A man should fake a gay marriage?

That would help

Though in germany, i can tell you, it cant me much harder for single men than for single women. Else you have a serious reason to sue

Article 3 of our constitution demands men and women to be treated equaly

I think I could fake a gay marriage, but only if I was a monk and had a ultra-strong-desire for being a father

They arent, but if you have the endurance to go all the way up to the supreme court you can definatly have it acknoleged.

@Redneo does the laws in there are based on what is writen or in precedents?

both. The text of the law is more important but if a higher court sets a precedent, you can use that