@Deleted User I do think you have a strong desire to mentor others. It's why you're focused on the brotherhood. I just don't think MGTOW is what you're looking for within that...

so why are we here.

just "GYOW" and that's it

@Roundabout Lout just saying im not being as dismissive as you think i am

@Roundabout Lout there is a lot of history here

@Deleted User That's the open ended question for all mgtow... it's up to you.

@Deleted User The real question is... WHAT do you expect from mgtow's community? There is a clear disconnect in expectations.

Never said so. I admitted to not understanding. I overstepped it seems, sorry

so I am looking for a brotherhood or some sort of trust, and it's "up to me" but YET YET I was just told "no, it's not that"

groupthink

@Rockets I fucking love you.

no...it's not a brotherhood....I was just told it wasn't

@Roundabout Lout thats fine... You just happened to ping me and i know im not not being productive

@Roundabout Lout a bit defensive on my part, but yes... It was defensive lol

I needed the double negative

@BlaqShiep Didn't mean to say you were specifically, just the conversation itself :)

@Deleted User MGTOW is a philosophy. It CAN be a brotherhood if you all agree on that and expectations are clear but the main reason you're angry is BECAUSE you expected us all to be brothers in blood. I don't think that is the primary role of MGTOW.

@Deleted User There are no rules dude.

@Roundabout Lout and i can see how a newcomer might see it that way. Its all good. Many good men here willing to help. Absolutely....

@Deleted User That is why it is so simple - no marriage or cohabitation. If you want to form a brotherhood based on those principles, go for it.

@Roundabout Lout these specific issues are history and theres context... We tried to help plenty

I like it here, I'm still internalizing the knowledge, so being here is helpful

Otherwise, don't be upset others don't step up to your level of expectations. ya know?

@Roundabout Lout please address issues... Do not be deterred by the drama

👍

@Roundabout Lout theres way too much context to explain whats unexpectable but we will deal with lots and lots of questions... Lotta good guys here. Join the voice chat

Basically you can do whatever... This specific drama was outta line...

I don't translate well into text, usually. Will do once I get a mic

@SFM_2046 is a Dancing Bear.

@Roundabout Lout gotcha

Anyone now a decent mic that's on the cheaper end?

hang on

i got you

@Roundabout Lout th res lots of support, lots of advice... Lots of patience.

The iphone 5 head phones are decent

But any mic will do

I might have some laying around...

Can get head phones cheap

Yeah any thing with a mic will work

@SFM_2046 I'm in the same position. I've been working as a systems engineer the past 5 years. I don't know what I want to do anymore, either.

I'm transitioning into data/product/devops engineering.