Yeah but why is he not talking to fuckibg Sam

serious self projection there Kaz

I know what its like to care

I would not be here

Id be talking to Sam

It's admirable to worry about someone else, I'll admit, and I know nothing about this Sam, but what @BlaqShiep said, this is not productive

You dont know the history @Roundabout Lout

Sure don't!

@Roundabout Lout then dont judge man

@Deleted User call projection, call whatever. Sam will contact you

@Roundabout Lout scroll up if youd like to comment

Didn't mean to, my bad if it came off that way

@Deleted User I do think you have a strong desire to mentor others. It's why you're focused on the brotherhood. I just don't think MGTOW is what you're looking for within that...

so why are we here.

just "GYOW" and that's it

@Roundabout Lout just saying im not being as dismissive as you think i am

@Roundabout Lout there is a lot of history here

@Deleted User That's the open ended question for all mgtow... it's up to you.

@Deleted User The real question is... WHAT do you expect from mgtow's community? There is a clear disconnect in expectations.

Never said so. I admitted to not understanding. I overstepped it seems, sorry

so I am looking for a brotherhood or some sort of trust, and it's "up to me" but YET YET I was just told "no, it's not that"

groupthink

@Rockets I fucking love you.

no...it's not a brotherhood....I was just told it wasn't

@Roundabout Lout thats fine... You just happened to ping me and i know im not not being productive

@Roundabout Lout a bit defensive on my part, but yes... It was defensive lol

I needed the double negative

@BlaqShiep Didn't mean to say you were specifically, just the conversation itself :)

@Deleted User MGTOW is a philosophy. It CAN be a brotherhood if you all agree on that and expectations are clear but the main reason you're angry is BECAUSE you expected us all to be brothers in blood. I don't think that is the primary role of MGTOW.

@Deleted User There are no rules dude.

@Roundabout Lout and i can see how a newcomer might see it that way. Its all good. Many good men here willing to help. Absolutely....

@Deleted User That is why it is so simple - no marriage or cohabitation. If you want to form a brotherhood based on those principles, go for it.

@Roundabout Lout these specific issues are history and theres context... We tried to help plenty

I like it here, I'm still internalizing the knowledge, so being here is helpful

Otherwise, don't be upset others don't step up to your level of expectations. ya know?

@Roundabout Lout please address issues... Do not be deterred by the drama

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@Roundabout Lout theres way too much context to explain whats unexpectable but we will deal with lots and lots of questions... Lotta good guys here. Join the voice chat

Basically you can do whatever... This specific drama was outta line...

I don't translate well into text, usually. Will do once I get a mic

@SFM_2046 is a Dancing Bear.