Hey @machtyn and all, whats shakin

are all you guys MGTOW??

I wouldn't think so, if youre talking slavery, or imprisonment, then your moral compass is out of whack

would be co-habitation

So question then, how does one deal with the pressure of producing offspring?

de-prioritize?

thanks, I'm just trying to figure out how to handle the idea, I'm the youngest, and well last hope for my family line. I personally can de value it, but finding it a hard idea to give up, and probably won't be able to.

Women Expect Your Servitude has a good discussion on it

I hear you, those are good points, but I think this just highlights a difference for me, and that passing on the family line has nothing to do with genetic material, but that of the soul

unless I can detach that belief...

for me, I'm not filthy rich, but I will be, so money wont be a problem

something seems off about that for me

well, its not about living vicariously

or is it?

I'm mulling it over

I can see both how it is selfish, and selfless either way

Yep, I'm nutz. I think my the reason I can't let it go has to do with esoteric ideas

which lie outside of reason

this week in stupid, that a vid in your list?

found it, I'd say use the background, moving stuff is for me a bit distracting if I'm supposed to be reading, unless it's a short read, then you can bounce back and forth

and then the game would be good candy added

I'm still watching one of sargon's vids, I think the background is a bit boring atm

I think I'll go against my initial statement, dynamic/gaming will help hold interest

The drive to continue the family line comes from my life and the family I come from, genes be damned if you will

Its certainly more important to me to raise a child and teach them the ways of the world, that is what is important to pass on, because that is indeed what forms the future

true

It's hard to be the last one with the option, I have aging parents, a brother that married an infertile older woman, one dead brother, and I'm the last option, who's for the most part gone mgtow, although I don't consider myself one

right, its against reason

Isn't this just avoiding the problem, isn't the goal to get through all this shitstorm?

I still believe in the good of mankind, in everyone

yeah, I hear that

I'm just struggling in giving up the idea entirely, it's a divide

@Sam Amari No need to get angry at me, you don't know me or my family's story, dont judge so quickly

I've heard one of the primary arguments against it is the resource drain, but what about in the future, when resources aren't a problem? will you give up your mgtow ways? or do you see it as a lifelong journey...

@Sam Amari I grow my own food

For a capable person, resources aren't a problem

I program robots for a living

why is it naive? I can grow food in a bunker if I have to

good plan

Im not really interested in entertaining doomsday, its outside of anyones control, I would recommend learning survival skills if that is a concern of yours

right

Climate changes = fact, mankind causes climate change = hearsay

can't post links?

@Sam Amari why so negative on everything?

Even if doomsday comes, you should become the kind of man who rises to the challenge and be happy in spite of it all, I thought thats what this community was about, but Im reading some very different directions here. #concerned

Then Im in the wrong place, fare thee well

For the nofap, I'd recommend reading Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins

From personal experience, your holy fucking existence changes when you nofap

If you can manage it, do it, I personally don't feel strong enough

I've never broken in a relationship, It was the girls that broke my heart, via unfaithfulness, while I've always stayed true. How can I come to terms with 40+ years of this

In jitterbug perfume, it's an avenue to somewhere close to Nirvana

I think the guy Alobar, that does it, finds his way into the 'in-between' heaven like plane and sees into the afterlife

I personally find a hell of alot of 'energy' I have no idea what to do with, I usually end up cleaning my apartment alot

like toothbrushing the molding

kinda cleaning

"I got the shot"

"I just don't feel, Idon't know, something"

"it didn't mean anything"

"No, I think we should stay together..."

oh I can guarantee you I'm a whole other ball of wax

I think most people can't handle a deep level of truth

"It

"It's hard to be good"

remember that

absolutely

never settle

Not for us, not for some. Women are different

I read somewhere that women don't really have the same concept of 'honor' and 'loyalty' that men do

yep, and it's a big problem I think

that's why there is so much monkey branching

they have no concept of it

For that to happen, one would have to look beyond immediate gratification, but when it's being handed to you, can you really blame them?

Their perogative is to choose the best

I have so many friends, good friends, that married lazy women, and have suffered immensely

However, I also know there are a few good ones out there, its a tough battle

That's my problem, I've known women that defy the mold

pnoid?

Their priority is to obtain generally the best provider, what confuses me is attraction to non-capable providers, is this all just part of the cock-carousel?

makes sense

assuming I'm the beta bucks though, if she fucks the alpha while with me, I will kill the alpha and her probably too, this isn't a game

There are some things a man doesn't care about, jail is preferential over losing one's soul

no worries, I do avoid it

just saying, it happens, just down the road, a married man found his wife fucking some guy, shot them both, then shot himself in front of the house

yeah, world is fn crazy

I choose to walk in the storm, and handle it gracefully

why women no voting? I'm not sure I get it entirely

is there a possibility where men and women would want to influence the same things?

Im just wondering what would that look like?

yeah its a struggle

whats REEE

Im trying to hit 3k a day and its difficult

Going Rambo, just did a subscribe-and-save on amazon for denny moore beef stew and a bunch of soups etc.

ice-cream + whey protein I should be good

yep, just setup a subscription

its one way to keep me from going out to eat and getting tempted

I have a 28 inch waist, eat anything I want, it takes real effort to get beyond 160 for me

lol

its the immature knee jerk reaction

I second that emotion