I live in one of the most expensive places in the US. Average rent is $1200 American which is roughly equal to a mortgage payment. And that's just rent; theres also utilities, food, gas, etc

then y @Rhunespire

Greetings men

@Kazemaru why are you here if you get fucked by the mods all the time

@Rhunespire OK... But men are capable of survive with 2k U$/month in a small town?

@legendpinnen because friends can troll each other without beeing offended

@thevillageidiot

@legendpinnen your labels are a proof of friendship from the mods

i dont think your labels really scream friendship @Kazemaru

@Rhunespire I thought around that or 1500 a month for rent was normal. I did the math. I need to work 40 hours a week with a minimum $20 per hour job. To just afford everything on own.

Yeah, it is fucked. Inflation and other crap.

Biggest problem is if you get sick or something happens so you have to save that money for a rainy day.

then dont live in a big city

Problem with savings is that it is affected by inflation as well, so you have to kind of account for that as well, particularly if it's your retirement fund.

get gold and property then @ColdEmbraceOfDeath

Rent always consume half of your income, thats why Most men live with their parents or roomates

Property isn't cheap. And there is only a certain limit up to which gold is profitable, a lot of people here are way past that.

hmm whats that limit @ColdEmbraceOfDeath

Well, you can't get a place to stay as a bachelor here anyways, so rent is out of the question.

Don't know, been awhile since I read about it.

Serious question, do you think it'll ever reverse. Like how one could afford part time delivery boy job and pay for college and enjoy in 70s. Wages have been purely stagnant. Will we ever have wages increase to be have increased spending power. Or are we just headed to barely surviving unless I figure out how to work smarter rather than harder.

@legendpinnen isn't living in a major city closer to 2k a month?

Not with women working, like you have twice the amount of labour and the same amount of jobs, so I doubt it.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath yea they halved wages but didnt double the work force

@Madhawk1995 yea i think so the average in lets say dc is 2k

I know NYC is closer to 3. And they are not impressive.

then just dont live in a major

unless you have to

I personally don't want too. I enjoy fresh air land. Looking at houses PA. We'll see how that goes, my Buddy just moved it there.

PA? @Madhawk1995

Pennsylvania

isnt that expensive?

Yeah he's splitting Victorian house with someone for 1.5k a month.

i would never wanna have a roomate

id rather just size down

whats the minimum wage in the us?

I'd rather have one of you guys as a roommate than a girl or a buzzfeed cuck.

obvs

They raised it around 7.61
But if you work for amazon or whole foods you get paid $15 an hour.

some roomates could be good but id not risk it

cuz if you leave they might get mad since the y now have to pay the full rent

and who knows what theyll do then