couldnt belonginess also come from being part of an online community, like this one

belonging can come from knowing that you are one of the best in something and to strife for more

how does belonging come from that

i thought belonging comes from being accepted by a community

belonginess and love is more a part of something as family, group for sharing your hobbies (like your sport team) part of group

being approved by one is what actually gives it value

Good morning kiddos, what are we talking about?

but it's a need, it's not the most important for the hierarchy

knowing that you do something that you like right

@Andrew The Meme King fundamental truths

always nce to have

Huh, interesting

btw, do you guys agree with this: all positive emotions that we experience share a common component being 'desire'

but i dont really understand

without desire, we don't invoke positive emotions by doing something]

why the maslow hierarchy request you to validate all step one by one

true, i didnt understand that too

because its gradal

from the most humble to the most greedy xD

I mean, being content is having a desire filled, that's a positive emotion from doing something

why you cant go the esteem and self-actualization without belonginess and love

one is freedom

and you can be loved, or in toxic relation ship without know it, and you will never have the feeling to be free

feel of belonging is so nice and romantic BUT nowadays you dont really commit your life to anything because you are discared at the drop of a hat

Belong to group of men, not a woman who fundamentally looks for a reason to ditch you

@JDB not sure about the desire but i can tell you i feel no pleasure in things i dont want

i agree with that Andrew, I guess is the real meaning

@Andrew The Meme King true - but you only feel content having completed a desire. and aren't the positive emotions from being content short-lived? - whereas positive emotions while pursuing a desire will be released until that desire is fulfilled.

It feels good to finish a task, even one you don't want to do because then it's ***DONE***

It feels good to be done with something

the intial 'gateway' to a posititve emotion is having desire in what you do

I could see the desire to getting something you don't want to do done

yeah exactly

Nobody does anything without a reason

Is that what you're saying?

yeah, the reason i brought this up is because i've been thinking about a fundamental truth that we all live by, "We prefer experiencing positive emotions over negative emotions." and then i asked myself "What is the common trait that all 'things' that invoke a positive emotion share?"

and i thought that trait was desire

it's simple but i'm trying to pinpoint fundamentals that i can build my life around

you can experience positive emotions while you are in pain btw 😄

as long as you have desire

***masochism much?***