@MufflePuff jalapenos are a great example. The spicy flavor is off putting preventing animals from eating them..... until we came along

How does it relate to humans?

Chemical warfare sounds like it does damage eating it.

@Madhawk1995 Asians are incorporating more red meat and they have noticed increase in stature and overall musculature. Not all protein and vitamins are created equal.

@MufflePuff Well there is all the pesticides and GMO's for one. Although a lot of those pesticides can be washed off and are supposed to have tiny half-lives.

right.

@MufflePuff due to selective pressures (animals and insects) plants that live pass on their genes. Adaptations help those plants survive, those adaptations get stronger. Chemical reactions with HCI (stomach acid) would prevent others from eating more of it because it either kills them or makes the offender extremely weak

@MufflePuff Yeah Amber Ohearn is decent but there are a bunch that discuss it. I can try to find it.

@Null so eating plants makes your stomach weak?

@machtyn can you PM me a link? I'm curious about the research myself.

@MufflePuff certain plants, some plants want to be eaten to spread their seeds (fruit).

Ok

Lectins are the main issue.

Sounds familiar, what's the issue with them?

The vegetarian myth goes into it as well. Ironically, the author of the vegetarian myth is a radical feminist lol.

lol

They’re literally anti-nutrients blocking absorption of nutrients we need.

My research concluded that a vegetarian/vegan diet is good to cleanse the body, but not optimal long-term. That it should be used in conjunction with a regular meat diet.

Like in moderation.

Look at our guts compared to all other animals - they’re tiny compared to other apes. Apes spend all day eating whereas humans don’t need much. Our stomachs can digest raw meat within an hour whereas vegetables will take much longer.

Yeah I think I'd heard that as well.

I cant be a vegan

Meat. Is too delicious

Exactly, Kazemaru

And in my case helps control my weight

I lean to meat and I gain weight very slowly

I cant be a vegan. Milk alternatives are terrible

I've saw cases of people that went full vegan, and started gaining weight fast

Elephants are vegans

Primates are onivorous

@InstallGentoo definitely a must-watch.

I could easily be a pescatarian.

Fyi, dont buy the "shades of vegetarians" stuff. It's less than 20 years old.
Vegetarian: does not eat meat or animal products.
Vegan: animal abuse/slaughter activist and a form of terrorist.

But I think I'll do fish 90% of the time and other meats sparingly; instead of swearing them off.

Vegans became very vocal around the year 2000 and ppl started conflating vegetarianism with veganism

Fish have more free-aminoacids in their meat, in relation to mammal. Thats make fish meat more easily digestible and allowed sashimi to be soo delicious

Vegetarians aren't really making a difference , they eat just as unhealthy as meat eaters

Yeet

Vegans that only eat fruits and vegtables and grains is the only stable diet tbh

Not to mention that those "organic veggie markets" existes only because of the vegans

Most diet extremists are malnourished in one way or another. You should always do your own research.