> if the argument is about improving the society, then you'd want to fill it full of as many asians as possible to increase the IQ and lower the crime rates, presuming you think it's genetic. Why not make society more asian then and import in a bunch of chinese people if you believe this? It's not about improving the society, you just use that as an excuse, as if you find other ways to improve the society, you won't do it if it doesn't let you keep the white only ethnostate, which is the end goal by itself and has nothing to do with the other random things you bring up.

Literally missing the point.

>if the argument is about improving the society, then you'd want to fill it full of as many asians as possible
No, because as I said before then your best course of action is actually to emigrate to asia.

that's not the goal of the ethnonationalist. the goal is to work together with the familiar and to live in peace with the similar. the foreign introduces unnecessary difficulty.

In fact, wouldn't society get worse if we started to mingle with Asians, since if they're superior to us, don't they lose some of their value if they get with us? Meaning overall we're doing the Asians a favor by sticking with ourselves?

Actually I'm not, you just want a white only ethnostate, which is irrelevant to how well of an outcome you'd think it would have. Move to Japan right, interbreed, improve the genetic chances of your offspring. Why breed with the known inferior race, unless you want to choose to be inferior, and it's not about improving society or your blood relatives at all? This is all disingenuous argument designed to work backwards to a prearrived conclusion. It's all just rationalization

This channel is as much of a shitshow as it always is. God bless.

I mean if it's about improvement of society or your own offspring, clearly you would interbreed with asians. But that's not what it's about, and that is my point

> Actually I'm not, you just want a white only ethnostate, which is irrelevant to how well of an outcome you'd think it would have. Move to Japan right, interbreed, improve the genetic chances of your offspring. Why breed with the known inferior race, unless you want to choose to be inferior, and it's not about improving society or your blood relatives at all? This is all disingenuous argument designed to work backwards to a prearrived conclusion. It's all just rationalization

Are you Jewish? This is Talmudic reasoning.

My brain doesn't respond to stimuli arbitrarily, it follows a somewhat consistent pattern.

So if my brain tells me whitey good black bad, that's not arbitrary

Why would I move to an Asian society if I want to live amongst whites? Lmao

@everybodydothatdinosaur and as I said before, that's not a real argument - because that's preference of the asian above all else despite the inherent drawbacks of submitting yourself as a minority.

Right, it's about wanting to remain white, not about IQ levels and crime rates

No it's about having a good time.

not to mention the loss of freedom seemingly inherent in asian statehood.

That's kind of my point, you want your society to remain white as it's own end, and the rest is just backpedalling to try and justify that

If this is about freedom then you'd just allow freedom of association to begin with and not exclude certain people

> That's kind of my point, you want your society to remain white as it's own end, and the rest is just backpedalling to try and justify that

I want my people to survive, kill me for it if that's so bad.

Everyone would be free to make their own decisions, and not have them forced on them by the very nature of a ethnostate, that contradicts the whole thing

@everybodydothatdinosaur it's about wanting to maintain culture, rights, freedoms and safety while rejecting foreign dominance over our own affairs. It's about conceiving some actual self worth in this world. I'd advocate exactly the same for the africans.

The issue is the beating around the bush, now that you admit it, yes I think it's bad, but becuase they're not "your people" just for having the same race

My preference for white people is ingrained in my brain. To actively go out of my way to stop pursuing white people and instead get with other ethnicities is a needless expenditure of mental resources.

People already are forced by the current states, even in the US. Repeal the Civil Rights Laws and you will see self segregation in action.

It's becuase you want what will be more percieved power, not about actually improving society or your bloodlines, that's the issue xD

And fear of losing said power, which you hold as the higher standard, and connect to race for whatever reason

> It's becuase you want what will be more percieved power, not about actually improving society or your bloodlines, that's the issue xD

It's all of the above.

I don't care about improving society whatsoever. People need to improve themselves, not society. Society will follow as a result.

There's no way to percieve this as a powergrab, because as I said before - these are already our societies.

>Everyone would be free to make their own decisions, and not have them forced on them

https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property

In a welfare state, open borders are theft.

>they're not "your people" just for having the same race
well that's some opinion you've got there. any particular reason?

I wonder who is currently forcing third worlders into western nations. I don't see ethnats doing it.

well... perhaps hostile ethnonats. zionists maybe. @Monstrous Moonshine

@ETBrooD If the whole issue is just improving your own circumstances, than you'd want to be around asians with the lowest crime rates and highest IQ by your own estimations
@Greasy They're not members of your community unless you know and interact with them, a person of any race you don't know is just as random to you as anyone else
@Monstrous Moonshine Deflecting by bringing up another irrelevant issue instead of focusing on the issue that mandatory exclusion of certain people and removing freedom of association is an inherent violation of freedom is silly. I'm sure you could just say, it's wrong to exclude people, but instead you say, well here is this other thing instead to not have to admit it

You're just anti-white *yawn*

>They're not members of your community unless you know and interact with them
Do you know what a nation even is?

It's like saying if you have never met your dad he isn't part of your family

It's just the entire matter of distance being irrelevant - the human race is commonly referred to as the global community, the neighbourhood is a community, the street is a community, and so on. Size doesn't matter for use of the word 'community'. The specific size I am referring to is the Nation. @everybodydothatdinosaur

btw feel free to continue without me

@everybodydothatdinosaur You're looking at this from your own subjective POV. Mine isn't yours. I would date some Asians, but if I had to make an uninformed choice, I'd go with a white person.

Generally speaking it's more likely that a white person has similar cultural and ideological views to my own. So for me, even the most basic statistics say I should pick white people before others, unless I've already exhausted the pool of valid mates.