lol, I've said this for some time, that it's just my opinion; obviously whether or not race matters or not is an inherently subjective thing

Except the outcome of a homogeneous society is literally better on every single factor of social capital. I'd rather live in Montana than California.

My argument is that, when calling something arbitrary, you better make sure not to use equally arbitrary parameters.

Basically, your opinion that racial preference is arbitrary, is arbitrary itself.

definitely @everybodydothatdinosaur is just thinking on a hyper-personal level. Of course race doesn't matter on a personal level because you either get along with someone or you don't. He's just (unintentionally?) ignoring that race is a significant factor in what percentage of people you will and won't get along with, and what aspects of interaction will be more and less comfortable on average.

if the argument is about improving the society, then you'd want to fill it full of as many asians as possible to increase the IQ and lower the crime rates, presuming you think it's genetic. Why not make society more asian then and import in a bunch of chinese people if you believe this? It's not about improving the society, you just use that as an excuse, as if you find other ways to improve the society, you won't do it if it doesn't let you keep the white only ethnostate, which is the end goal by itself and has nothing to do with the other random things you bring up.

A homogenous society is not always better, we would be better off with more asians if they have lower IQ's and commit less crimes, right? You're just using that as an arbitriary wedge, that's not the real reason

I don't care about society before myself. I think the quality of society is the result of my caring for myself first, and only then for society.

> if the argument is about improving the society, then you'd want to fill it full of as many asians as possible to increase the IQ and lower the crime rates, presuming you think it's genetic. Why not make society more asian then and import in a bunch of chinese people if you believe this? It's not about improving the society, you just use that as an excuse, as if you find other ways to improve the society, you won't do it if it doesn't let you keep the white only ethnostate, which is the end goal by itself and has nothing to do with the other random things you bring up.

Literally missing the point.

>if the argument is about improving the society, then you'd want to fill it full of as many asians as possible
No, because as I said before then your best course of action is actually to emigrate to asia.

that's not the goal of the ethnonationalist. the goal is to work together with the familiar and to live in peace with the similar. the foreign introduces unnecessary difficulty.

In fact, wouldn't society get worse if we started to mingle with Asians, since if they're superior to us, don't they lose some of their value if they get with us? Meaning overall we're doing the Asians a favor by sticking with ourselves?

Actually I'm not, you just want a white only ethnostate, which is irrelevant to how well of an outcome you'd think it would have. Move to Japan right, interbreed, improve the genetic chances of your offspring. Why breed with the known inferior race, unless you want to choose to be inferior, and it's not about improving society or your blood relatives at all? This is all disingenuous argument designed to work backwards to a prearrived conclusion. It's all just rationalization

This channel is as much of a shitshow as it always is. God bless.

I mean if it's about improvement of society or your own offspring, clearly you would interbreed with asians. But that's not what it's about, and that is my point

> Actually I'm not, you just want a white only ethnostate, which is irrelevant to how well of an outcome you'd think it would have. Move to Japan right, interbreed, improve the genetic chances of your offspring. Why breed with the known inferior race, unless you want to choose to be inferior, and it's not about improving society or your blood relatives at all? This is all disingenuous argument designed to work backwards to a prearrived conclusion. It's all just rationalization

Are you Jewish? This is Talmudic reasoning.

My brain doesn't respond to stimuli arbitrarily, it follows a somewhat consistent pattern.

So if my brain tells me whitey good black bad, that's not arbitrary

Why would I move to an Asian society if I want to live amongst whites? Lmao

@everybodydothatdinosaur and as I said before, that's not a real argument - because that's preference of the asian above all else despite the inherent drawbacks of submitting yourself as a minority.

Right, it's about wanting to remain white, not about IQ levels and crime rates

No it's about having a good time.

not to mention the loss of freedom seemingly inherent in asian statehood.

That's kind of my point, you want your society to remain white as it's own end, and the rest is just backpedalling to try and justify that

If this is about freedom then you'd just allow freedom of association to begin with and not exclude certain people

> That's kind of my point, you want your society to remain white as it's own end, and the rest is just backpedalling to try and justify that

I want my people to survive, kill me for it if that's so bad.

Everyone would be free to make their own decisions, and not have them forced on them by the very nature of a ethnostate, that contradicts the whole thing

@everybodydothatdinosaur it's about wanting to maintain culture, rights, freedoms and safety while rejecting foreign dominance over our own affairs. It's about conceiving some actual self worth in this world. I'd advocate exactly the same for the africans.

The issue is the beating around the bush, now that you admit it, yes I think it's bad, but becuase they're not "your people" just for having the same race

My preference for white people is ingrained in my brain. To actively go out of my way to stop pursuing white people and instead get with other ethnicities is a needless expenditure of mental resources.

People already are forced by the current states, even in the US. Repeal the Civil Rights Laws and you will see self segregation in action.

It's becuase you want what will be more percieved power, not about actually improving society or your bloodlines, that's the issue xD

And fear of losing said power, which you hold as the higher standard, and connect to race for whatever reason

> It's becuase you want what will be more percieved power, not about actually improving society or your bloodlines, that's the issue xD

It's all of the above.

I don't care about improving society whatsoever. People need to improve themselves, not society. Society will follow as a result.

There's no way to percieve this as a powergrab, because as I said before - these are already our societies.

>Everyone would be free to make their own decisions, and not have them forced on them

https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property

In a welfare state, open borders are theft.

>they're not "your people" just for having the same race
well that's some opinion you've got there. any particular reason?

I wonder who is currently forcing third worlders into western nations. I don't see ethnats doing it.

well... perhaps hostile ethnonats. zionists maybe. @Monstrous Moonshine