its not about the race

its about stopping whoever is doing it from doing it and removing them from society

you could also put a graph up there without race and just put economic profile

there is def something that needs to be done to fix the problems in those communities, but its going to have to come from within as well as from outside, otherwise its just pissing money away

agreed

the areas such crimes happen is also an interesting stat.
aren't the hotspots for them in the cities that are very anti-gun already?

ive heard somthing along those lines before yeah, idk how accurate it is though

I suck at searching for stuff, so I am unable to find the stats myself.

@ARockRaider yes, whenever people post these race stats it is always univariate.

all this race stuff goes under the second you start controling for different things

multivariate analysis is the only way to prove causal links

not this stuff

my understanding is that these crimes are being caused by a particular culture, that culture is held by a particular people.
these crimes are also happening in places where the law-abiding can't have guns or can't use them because of the laws.

yep, when you control for culture, economic, socio and then even zip code. whites in the rate have the same per capita as the blacks, aka - race means nothing

these people refuse to control for differnent variables

or means very little.

@ArawnBlade i have no idea what anything you said had to do with the point i was making

Given that the majority of influence in certain communities comes from songs that have lyrics about selling drugs and killing people over Colors, Sneakers, etc., it's definitely culture

and often people attach themselfs to a culture based on their race.

a lot of the gun violence is almost def linked to a mentality of kill those who wrong me rather than fight them, its like that scene from friday where he chooses a brick over a gun because he had a father to tell him why the gun was wrong

a brick can still kill someone very easiley, If someone chucked a brick at me I would feel right in assumeing they wanted me dead and I would feel justified in responding accordingly.

lol the brick was used because the guy was like 10 feet tall and solid muscle lol

the message still applies for me

the guy throwing or the other guy?

the guy getting hit by the brick

hmmm.... still, I would disagree with such an attack.

he didnt throw it tho, he hit him in the face with it a few times

its more the message behind it is why i brought it up, fight and both of you live rather than kill and then most likely be killed in retaliation

oh, well in that case it is definitely an attack I would assume means to kill me, reguardless of my size to his.

I would say that a physical attack is something that should only be done as a matter of last resort.

youd have to watch the movie to get it, im not doing it justice, plus its a comedy movie for the most part

oh, didn't know it was a movie, thought you were talking about a recent event in the news.

nah its a movie called friday about people in the hood, that one part felt like it was relevant for the culture conversation that was going on

ah

Hell yeah

I've watched that movie

It's pretty fucking great

It's probably accurate for those communities, too

personaly I work with an asumption that every rule has an edge case.
there isn't much in the way of obvious color diversity where i live and so I don't have to worry about anything past "basic human assumption"
which normally is enough to start with almost anyone.
i'm sure if i lived in an area where there were clear culture lines I would have a "culture A assumption" and a "culture B assumption" that i would start with when ever I met someone new.

it just so happens that cultures are passed on much like genetics, so culture tends to be mistaken for race.

@ARockRaider would be better if it was not racial cultures and just the culture in general in low economic area such as the hood

@ARockRaider and you shouldnt be afraid of the culture when you enter the gated community and see a black family