Message from @Frost509

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2019-12-01 21:37:57 UTC  

im going to start on that Human Action after dinner.

2019-12-01 21:37:57 UTC  

and then you will also learn to hate the civil war.....

2019-12-01 21:38:11 UTC  

awesome @Brue

2019-12-01 21:38:55 UTC  

skip the killing ones about criminals and murder ect

2019-12-01 21:38:55 UTC  

i think of it like socrates. Whenever someone else corrects my thinking and makes me understand it, I win. They're still the same but i'm better off.

2019-12-01 21:41:14 UTC  

later, good talking with ya'll

2019-12-01 21:41:23 UTC  

why do you think i ask so many questions to people

2019-12-01 21:41:43 UTC  
2019-12-01 22:13:06 UTC  

man i keep missing the talks here lol

2019-12-01 22:13:34 UTC  

@Frost509 its all good they come and go, add something even after its done just quote what i or someone else said

2019-12-01 22:44:08 UTC  

Reeeeee

2019-12-01 22:49:11 UTC  

well theres a much larger pop of whites in america, who i believe also have more guns, so if its a gun problem then the whites should be much higher right?

2019-12-01 22:51:49 UTC  

1) SC constitutional Judges
2) Stop Immigration
3) Harsher Crime Punishments
3) Harsher Crime Punishments

2019-12-01 22:52:06 UTC  

its not about the race

2019-12-01 22:52:25 UTC  

its about stopping whoever is doing it from doing it and removing them from society

2019-12-01 22:53:08 UTC  

you could also put a graph up there without race and just put economic profile

2019-12-01 22:54:08 UTC  

there is def something that needs to be done to fix the problems in those communities, but its going to have to come from within as well as from outside, otherwise its just pissing money away

2019-12-01 22:54:22 UTC  

agreed

2019-12-01 22:54:34 UTC  

the areas such crimes happen is also an interesting stat.
aren't the hotspots for them in the cities that are very anti-gun already?

2019-12-01 22:55:15 UTC  

ive heard somthing along those lines before yeah, idk how accurate it is though

2019-12-01 22:55:34 UTC  

I suck at searching for stuff, so I am unable to find the stats myself.

2019-12-01 22:55:47 UTC  

@ARockRaider yes, whenever people post these race stats it is always univariate.

all this race stuff goes under the second you start controling for different things

2019-12-01 22:56:11 UTC  

multivariate analysis is the only way to prove causal links

2019-12-01 22:56:19 UTC  

not this stuff

2019-12-01 22:57:37 UTC  

my understanding is that these crimes are being caused by a particular culture, that culture is held by a particular people.
these crimes are also happening in places where the law-abiding can't have guns or can't use them because of the laws.

2019-12-01 22:58:52 UTC  

yep, when you control for culture, economic, socio and then even zip code. whites in the rate have the same per capita as the blacks, aka - race means nothing

2019-12-01 22:59:16 UTC  

these people refuse to control for differnent variables

2019-12-01 22:59:17 UTC  

or means very little.

2019-12-01 22:59:35 UTC  

@ArawnBlade i have no idea what anything you said had to do with the point i was making

2019-12-01 22:59:41 UTC  

Given that the majority of influence in certain communities comes from songs that have lyrics about selling drugs and killing people over Colors, Sneakers, etc., it's definitely culture

2019-12-01 23:00:17 UTC  

and often people attach themselfs to a culture based on their race.

2019-12-01 23:00:22 UTC  

a lot of the gun violence is almost def linked to a mentality of kill those who wrong me rather than fight them, its like that scene from friday where he chooses a brick over a gun because he had a father to tell him why the gun was wrong

2019-12-01 23:01:38 UTC  

a brick can still kill someone very easiley, If someone chucked a brick at me I would feel right in assumeing they wanted me dead and I would feel justified in responding accordingly.

2019-12-01 23:02:04 UTC  

lol the brick was used because the guy was like 10 feet tall and solid muscle lol

2019-12-01 23:02:18 UTC  

the message still applies for me

2019-12-01 23:02:20 UTC  

the guy throwing or the other guy?

2019-12-01 23:02:32 UTC  

the guy getting hit by the brick

2019-12-01 23:03:12 UTC  

hmmm.... still, I would disagree with such an attack.

2019-12-01 23:03:13 UTC  

he didnt throw it tho, he hit him in the face with it a few times

2019-12-01 23:03:59 UTC  

its more the message behind it is why i brought it up, fight and both of you live rather than kill and then most likely be killed in retaliation