I feel the US is strong enough to avoid a major fall, like what happens in the US, but i think thats at a federal level, I fully expect some states to fall into the same traps we did, Oregon, Washington and California come to mind

i want to see two primary things happen with trump in his second term, 1) two more supreme court seats and a few hundred more lower level judge appointments. 2) Major focus on debt and deficit reduction. Those two things will make it so i know socialists won't get their way here while i'm alive.

I don't think you can reduce deficit

Trump likes bieing liked, and those kind of measures are always unpopular

lol, he doesn't give a fuck if you like him, he pisses people off every day

he didn't win on popular vote even

he trolls people true,

but austere measures would hurt his base

he needs does rallies and shit

He has talked about doing a nickle plan in the Executive. If that happened 2nd term or Paul's plan in the legislature, I would be so happy....

trump is about to go after france with high tarrifs, macron is a moron, he doesn't understand trump at all

yeah, our wine and cheese prices may go through the roof in usa, but boohoohoo, eat wisconsin cheese and drink california wine

here is one thing that indicates macron is a moron (or he has a bad translator) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ww1-centenary-macron-nationalism/with-trump-sitting-nearby-macron-calls-nationalism-a-betrayal-idUSKCN1NG0IH

"nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism" that's retarded. without patriotism, there's no nationionalism. it's a totally stupid statement of his

shhhhhhhht, newspeak in the works

French wine is meh. More worried about Chile on the good wine front....

we need to take our ability to have clear definitions back. i keep seeing people talking about librards and how bad liberals. Those aren't actual liberals, they've hijacked the name. A liberal has central principles of free speech and right to assemble with whoever, very strong individualism. A better term for the problem people in the usa who want to take away our freedoms is LEFTY.

people call themselves liberals in one breath and then babble on about restricting and punishing all sorts of "hate" speech. they're not actual liberal

the right has absorbed a lot of that word confusion

classical liberals, for instance, are ok people and can rationally discuss their views. they don't start screaming FASCIST when their reasoning is challenged. Dave Rubin is an example of an intelligent liberal who will gladly debate his beliefs and rationally support them

i see no reason not to consider these people liberals

> "nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism" that's retarded

I think he merely means that nationalism betrays partiotism by taking it too far.

here is the full quote

“Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism: nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism,” Macron said in a 20-minute address delivered from under the Arc de Triomphe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of World War One.

"Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism"?

Yeah, that ... that IS retarded.

that's why i'd give him a pass if something was lost in translation but no one ever tried to correct it from his side

I understand that Nationalism can go too far, when it goes extreme, it can power fascism.

or course, any idea that inspires people to action can taken too far can be bad

Does he maybe not understand the definition of the word? It also doesn't help that the word 'nationalist' has become so coupled with 'nazis'.

There's stupid and then there's... this

>exact opposite
That's the key part

Which led me to question whether or not he even understands what the word means...

I don't think there are many words in the dictionary that are too much closer in meaning, without being equal

Not the same words by any means, there are key differences

But very similar

Macron is saying something akin to "the sky is never blue"

I suppose if someone wants to be specific about it, a "nationalist" can be categorized as someone who believes their nation is superior to all other nations and a "patriot" is someone who is willing to protect/defend their nation from intruders and harm.

But that's a stretch

A nationalist is someone who thinks having a nation is better than not having one

Supremacy of one nation over the other is national supremacism or something like that