TFW you get outspent by your opponent on the campaign while having the entire MSM support them and shit on you, only to still come out victorious.

yup

I wasn't sure about Trump at first, but now i'm all in with him.
I still think he should be called out when he does something wrong, but i'm willing to let him do what he needs to in foreign matters.

Same. The choice is Trump or full blown communism. The choice cannot be as clear as day

Kamala wanted to make private health care and insurance illegal. She full on the socialism train.

And I'll be damned if I let the country that took my parents in turn into communism 2.0 from the shitholes they fled from.

as for the pain trade issues cause to locals, they really should have expected that cheap goods wouldn't always be available form China.

We can always shift production to some where else

Or novel idea, bring it back to the US

right, and the US was always good at building stuff itself anyway.

I like how Trump has done things but I'd have to vote for him anyway, it's vote for him or socialism.

I just find it comical that after WW2 and the unveiling of the holocaust, the world went "never again". Well the shit that's happening in China is holocaust^2 and not a fing peep from these moral arbiters.

We said never again on 9/11 too

I would Vote for season 2 of Trump reguardless of who was running against him right now, if i liked the other guy i would tell him "wait till next time, this is to good to pass up!"

That's the irony, despite the left always claiming they're not the racists, they somehow seem to care a lot more about western history over all others

Funny how this preference is not some kind of... ethnic preference or something <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

Be Leftist - Cry about slave history of the West/US
Also Leftist - Not a single peep about the slave trade going on in Libya

yup

funny thing about the slave history of the US, we didn't chose to have it we were born with it. (the country i mean)

Apparently they went into a coma during history lesson where we had a civil war to end slavery

All those privileged white christian men died for more slav- oh wait...

<s> yah but see people HAD slaves so what they did after that doesn't matter. </s>

IIRC it was the west who 1st started liberating slaves and sparked the philosophy of ending the practice to begin with

But west is evil mmmm'kaaaay

I haven't heard otherwise.

I think Israel may have had a rule that would set slaves free after 7 years, but i don't know enough about that.

and they were still OK with haveing slaves if i'm right about that.

There was a point at which 75% of the world was in slavery or some sort indentured survitude. The principles the USA was founded on led to slavery being abolished here.

I thought the UK was the 1st 'official nation' to abolish slavery?

"The principles the USA was founded on led to slavery being abolished here."
now that I KNOW is true.

UK did it on religious grounds

We have a set of seccular universal values

I think those values were based on our religious heritage, but i think the basic values can stand on their own.

The enlightenment helped.

I'm on the fence in terms of it being truly secular values or it simply being a derivative off of religious values.

"Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff" seems simple enough.
or "how would you like it if they did that to you?"

@TheGhostAgent. I think it's hard to really split them up too much.

Was talking w/the Mrs in terms of how we have to at least acknowledge religion playing a major role in human history and how it was a seed for enlightenment values

but I wouldn't discount the place that we got them form for sure.

Some religious values are from general wisdom too

The lines are blurred in some cases