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Or novel idea, bring it back to the US
right, and the US was always good at building stuff itself anyway.
I like how Trump has done things but I'd have to vote for him anyway, it's vote for him or socialism.
I just find it comical that after WW2 and the unveiling of the holocaust, the world went "never again". Well the shit that's happening in China is holocaust^2 and not a fing peep from these moral arbiters.
We said never again on 9/11 too
I would Vote for season 2 of Trump reguardless of who was running against him right now, if i liked the other guy i would tell him "wait till next time, this is to good to pass up!"
That's the irony, despite the left always claiming they're not the racists, they somehow seem to care a lot more about western history over all others
Funny how this preference is not some kind of... ethnic preference or something <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>
Be Leftist - Cry about slave history of the West/US
Also Leftist - Not a single peep about the slave trade going on in Libya
yup
funny thing about the slave history of the US, we didn't chose to have it we were born with it. (the country i mean)
Apparently they went into a coma during history lesson where we had a civil war to end slavery
All those privileged white christian men died for more slav- oh wait...
<s> yah but see people HAD slaves so what they did after that doesn't matter. </s>
IIRC it was the west who 1st started liberating slaves and sparked the philosophy of ending the practice to begin with
But west is evil mmmm'kaaaay
I haven't heard otherwise.
I think Israel may have had a rule that would set slaves free after 7 years, but i don't know enough about that.
and they were still OK with haveing slaves if i'm right about that.
There was a point at which 75% of the world was in slavery or some sort indentured survitude. The principles the USA was founded on led to slavery being abolished here.
"The principles the USA was founded on led to slavery being abolished here."
now that I KNOW is true.
UK did it on religious grounds
We have a set of seccular universal values
I think those values were based on our religious heritage, but i think the basic values can stand on their own.
The enlightenment helped.
I'm on the fence in terms of it being truly secular values or it simply being a derivative off of religious values.
"Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff" seems simple enough.
or "how would you like it if they did that to you?"
@TheGhostAgent. I think it's hard to really split them up too much.
Was talking w/the Mrs in terms of how we have to at least acknowledge religion playing a major role in human history and how it was a seed for enlightenment values
but I wouldn't discount the place that we got them form for sure.
Some religious values are from general wisdom too
The lines are blurred in some cases
Yeah the whole 3/5ths thing was to prevent southern states from getting too many electoral votes. The first state to end slavery was only a couple years after the revolution, I think Maine?
Yea well, talk to any modern day atheist who thinks religion is only bad bad bad and have 0 role in society. It makes me wonder whether or not they're just parroting shit from their teachers or colleagues to look 'cool/educated' or if they actually understand the arguments behind atheism.
i'm gonna go with they are parrots.
I think parroting
Usually they are
If you havent actually studied the subject matter and you are just mad because christian mommy and daddy wouldnt let you smoke weed and grounded you for getting your 13 year old girlfriend pregnant then you are a parrot
rofl. Did you just assume their relationship status?! Boyfriends can get pregnant too! REEEEEEEE!!! /s