Wtf, really. Are we going to compare our birth circumstances and are who is better? Wtf

Lol

elaborate

well I mean to be fair humans are hierarchal beings

but "success" is definitely subjective and not very important

In the physical world, sure

But where do your happiness and mine compare in q heirarchy?

well I would imagine that since I am myself that I always rank higher than you do

im sure the Iroquois were successful in their own subjective opinion but they are not here right now, there are things which show success in nature and you have to step away from the subjective argument at some point

I might be a little bit biased in my favor though :p

This marxist stuff gets really boring , class heirarchies, yawn

Intersectionality is bad for your minds

my opinion of Marx is that he isn't a good philosopher. He seems to be perplexed as to why working classes of different nations don't work together and put themselves on the top of the hierarchy. Marx have you heard of basic human psychology?

I fukin hate socialist economic thinking

Marx is only popular because it's easy to read, prove me wrong

marx was the indivdual who came up with the idea of equal opportunity, it is a socialist idea

it's childlike, i agree @TeeTotaler

socialists never explain their model comprehensively, they just explain a part of a capitalist economic system that they don't understand, then say 'it doesn't work' then cite Marx

it's one reason people fall for it. it's easy to digest

no one here is a socialist in choosing besides maybe superherodeluxe, dont make this a marx sucks circle jerk @calman21

the socialist model doesn't take human nature or the nature of complex systems into account

awe, but I want to >_<

Related to Marx, I've noticed my college educated peers (specifically the ones going into the more liberal arts areas) have been having their smarts educated out of them.

i havent even read Marx, I just am venting about dumb socialists

i'm trying to convince you to turn away from your marxist thinking @Brue

@SuperHeroDeluxe i am anti egalitarian in all forms what are you talking about

i think that those in society that are at the bottom are there for a reason, be it genetic, cultural or economic, and there is nothing that can change that

"arrggg, it's all unfair and unequal there is an oppressive hierarchy systemic to the human condition!" - you

its not oppressive

i feel it's all fair in america

it is just

if it's systemic and unavoidable, it sure is

that is you saying it is oppressive

luckily for me, i don't suffer from that

no, it's reality saying that

life is oppressive

if it's unavoidable, you're fucked, it's oppressing you

really, dance around that one

the bottom of society should not be helped and it will lead to their demise, which will allow all of us to live better off

that's more of survival of the fittest

did you spin some random sentence maker?