idk why people say the case is fake, even republican witnesses had to admit under oath that he's guilty... https://youtu.be/eBh0oJFtV_c

*his impeachment will be an early christmas present* <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

*IF* the Democrat's actually have the stones to impeach in the house, it's not happening in the Senate.

And right now, Democrats would nerf public opinion, risk having the Biden's called to the stand, and remove DNC candidates from campaigning as they'll be stuck in the trial.

I doubt Dems will call for impeachment at all. Probably spit some bs about "it's *so close* to the election" or "let the *people* decide" - before moving to a Censure bill

haha, yeah I'm skeptical too, call it wishfull thinking 🙂

but I'm not sure how you could argue against that essentialy admission of guilt from someone who was handpicked by trump.

Are they still on the Ukraine thing? What happened to the Russia Impeachment shit? Why was that dropped so easily?

>inb4 "Trump intimidated the Ukrainians"

The allegations of muh collusion are far more damning than some investigation about Trump asking Ukraine to do some shit on their end

shit which they could have just....y'know, refused, since it's servers on their end, not on the American's end

he held back aid to them to get dirt on joe biden... why else would he mention joe biden 4 times in a call with the president of Ukraine

Citation needed

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764052120/read-transcript-of-president-trumps-call-with-ukraine-s-leader
There seems to be TWO mentions of Biden in the transcript, not four

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-transcript-trumps-call-ukraine-president/story?id=65849015
ABC's seemingly official transcript seems to only show a single mention of Biden

semantics

he shouldnt have been mentioned at all

Why not?

It's some shady shit that the Bidens are doing

on Ukrainian servers
Which the Ukrainians CAN refuse, you know that, right?

http://archive.is/O8vpm

I still have yet to receive a citation on the revocation of aid

@Smirk Supreme Inshallah

lmao do you watch the proceedings?

Can we be 100% sure that Trump revoking aid (that's IF he did) isn't due to some sort of ties to Russia he's trying to mend?

@PurpleToad Cite an article. I don't watch TV.

**Dont watch the live impeachment hearings and witness testimonies**

lmao

Here’s the problem- if Biden is guilty of corruption, and there’s *alot* of evidence to suggest that, it’s a weak argument to go after Trump for asking about it.

"Hurr durr watch TV"

If the crux of this is Trump asking to investigate a political rival - disprove the accusation first before declaring impeachment.

@PurpleToad Cite a source, buddy

@Tiberius the only reason why the debt rose so much under the obama administration is because he came into office during a recession

during the latter part of his term the deficit was kept quite low

republican administrations in general run bigger deficits than democratic ones

same holds true for trump now

now i don't think that's bad per se

the united states has to run deficits

just a sec

as for the economic recovery that's hard to ascertain how much of it was a result of policy, i think the 2008 recession was the strongest since the great depression but again i suppose it's hard to determine how much of that is a result of policy

To an extent we do, to imply that Trump's deficit even comes close to Obamas is patently ridiculous.