Message from @TeeTotaler
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The DMV is a modern marvel of efficiency
i would say that's mild compared to countries like norway yeah
Let's just turn every hospital in the country into the same thing, no big deal
It's not like people's lives are at stake or anything
@UnScottable yeah and of course the progressive stuff is bad, but that goes for any democrat really
tru
also i don't think sanders advocated for the complete abolishment of private healthcare
@Death in June try watching this
what is this video intended to show
all i'm saying is that sanders is a pretty mild socdem if you consider countries like norway have 35%~ of their workforce employed in the state sector and the state sector accounts for a larger portion of gdp than the private sector
That's a huge problem
why
The video is about Finland, but it's a pretty close analog to Norway
Europe has always been pretty socialist. We put up with it because of the cold war but they really do not even know how to be conservative. They are by nature serfs.
>tfw you say you don’t live in ‘That bad a city’ and then you hear a Drive-By while walking your dog
Kinda like how I was telling Ma on hands-free not to worry about me driving home on the freeway, the weather's fine, then suddenly its fucking monsoon season
Europe is so socialist that when you explain the true meaning of socialism to a European, they think you're just making things up. That is until you pick up a dictionary and show them - because then they *suddenly* don't care about the topic anymore.
that's my experience when talking to most people about any topic that is counter to a mainstream opinion. "Where are you sources" me:"here they are" "those sources are like 100+ pages each, i'm not reading that lol; also I'm still right"
I mean, you could press the point home if you cited the specific page(s) relevent to the discussion
most of the time people won't have their mind changed by data, no matter how good the data is.
plus in my defence usually these discussions happen with NEETs who have nothing but free time
so they have 0 excuse not to read it
Well then that just looks like you're trying to scare cunts off with massive amounts of reading material
oh no! scary reading material that will educate! the horror!
if you have a point, make the point, literally no one, good faith or bad, is going to impromptu read a short novel's worth of shit for an internet argument
then they're not actually looking to be educated on the subject
probably educated on their own time...? again, impromptu reading assignments are unnattractive
unless they just have literally nothing better to do with their day, in which case why the fuck are you debating children?
how many people do you know that actually take time to educate themselves? most people will read some trashy "journalistic" article and act as if they're well read on the subject
there's loads of jobless guys nowadays
i think california was something like only 43% of men were working
you could show the sort of people we are talking about a single graph that gives all the data truthfully and they still wouldn't change their mind, the large amount of reading is just an excuse.
well first, lets have healthy skepticism on what california thinks is a man
well if you want to run around yelling and acting well informed about a subject then you probably should/want to be educated and actually well informed on the subject you are pretending to be a supporter for
secondly, you're still not addressing the fact few people in the middle of a pissant internet bitching match are going to stop and take the time to consume an entire thesis on whatever fucking subject right then and there
it wasn't a pissing match, it was a discussion
just because 1 person throws a fit because "omg! a different opinion!" doesn't make the entire thing a pissing contest
I'm not arguing whether they're clearly not up for the discussion in the first place, just that you're presenting an unreasonable and unnatractive activity in the middle of the discussion