Message from @wacka

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2020-01-13 19:39:09 UTC  

Arguable, Under the current system some people can be left without any income for weeks or even in some rare cases months

2020-01-13 19:40:00 UTC  

people currently are left without adequate income forever

2020-01-13 19:40:05 UTC  

In the modern world everyone should have access to basic
necessities and UBI can deal with that

2020-01-13 19:40:07 UTC  

particularly the weakest in society

2020-01-13 19:40:22 UTC  

It can also reduce the damage caused by automation

2020-01-13 19:41:38 UTC  

negates the damage done by entitlement criteria and beurocracy failure and distortion

2020-01-13 19:42:47 UTC  

there is a finite amount of money... if youre giving it to everyone, then you are diluting the amount the people who need it most get

2020-01-13 19:43:13 UTC  

which is fine by me... but dont say its not taking some from the poorest

2020-01-13 19:43:18 UTC  

you're not necessarily giving out any more money

2020-01-13 19:43:41 UTC  

UBI isn't putting extra money into circulation and for most people you will just be giving back part of the money that has been taken from them through tax

2020-01-13 19:43:47 UTC  

well you are, but you're clawing far more back from the rich that you're giving, and you're doign away with the beurocratic behemoth

2020-01-13 19:44:59 UTC  

It's too bad that only radical parties were offering UBI in the last election

2020-01-13 19:45:15 UTC  

Now's not the time for it, anyway

2020-01-13 19:46:58 UTC  

once you have bipedal robots able to perform pretty much any teachable task... farm, harvest, deliver/drive... build housing... then you got a scarcity free society

2020-01-13 19:47:19 UTC  

when the robots can take care of themselves, fix each other...

2020-01-13 19:49:55 UTC  

and when on finance for the price of a new car, you can buy an android that does all the cleaning and cooking... that'll be pretty sweet

2020-01-13 19:50:27 UTC  

centuries away from post-scarcity society

2020-01-13 19:51:22 UTC  

I dunno bout that... these things tend to escalate quickly

2020-01-13 19:53:06 UTC  

I always said... 1900-1950 was the production line age.. which by 1950 was pretty much sorted...
then 1950-2000 was the digital age
and 2000-2050 will be the robot age
and my best guess would be 2050-2100 being a space age

2020-01-13 19:53:35 UTC  

so think where we were in 1970 with the digital age... and where we got to in 2000

2020-01-13 19:54:07 UTC  

right now we got robots doing flippin parkour 😛

2020-01-13 19:56:54 UTC  

I think we could reach a post scarcity society within 100 years

2020-01-13 19:57:07 UTC  

Especially with the growth of AI

2020-01-13 20:02:54 UTC  

I wonder if the Lords will try and block the bill

2020-01-13 20:03:29 UTC  

I wasn't aware they could

2020-01-13 20:04:26 UTC  

Developing more efficient methods of resource extraction does not eliminate the scarcity of those resources

2020-01-13 20:04:48 UTC  

But AI will definitely make things a lot easier

2020-01-13 20:11:40 UTC  

hot

2020-01-13 20:12:34 UTC  

it's only a jack if it's on a ship

however
the EU is a sinking ship, so that's fine <:smugon:512048583806025739>

2020-01-13 20:14:38 UTC  

apparently nobody has flags on their desks, just the brexit meps seem to have done

2020-01-13 20:15:29 UTC  

loads of people under that tweet likening him to a nazi and/or calling him a fascist

2020-01-13 20:15:57 UTC  

low iq peanut gallery

2020-01-13 20:16:49 UTC  

I bet the polish had flags... in fact Im sure a lot of them had flags

2020-01-13 20:20:14 UTC  

someone posted a photo with none visible, who knows

2020-01-13 20:20:40 UTC  

Gah, i just watched a "urban exploration" of an abandoned falling down house and saw two Vic 20's in it, and yellled "but I WANT THOSE!"

2020-01-13 20:21:13 UTC  

It's become a "date the last occupancy of this place from the video evidence" game

2020-01-13 20:22:55 UTC  
2020-01-13 20:31:42 UTC  

i wonder if any of these people take stuff

2020-01-13 20:33:30 UTC  

could just bring more flags