Message from @Kunarian

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2020-01-20 20:06:29 UTC  

Hereditary lords only

2020-01-20 20:06:31 UTC  

i dont care anymore, i just dont want the progressive left

2020-01-20 20:06:35 UTC  

They wouldn't have much actual power

2020-01-20 20:06:50 UTC  

The Lords can't force through anything against the Commons will

2020-01-20 20:07:14 UTC  

stupid

2020-01-20 20:07:22 UTC  

that might be the only thing leohte has said that i agree with - i think the HO lords was probably more trustworthy when it was just hereditary peers and not jammed to the rafters with zombie politicians carrying out their final marching orders from their past party

2020-01-20 20:07:32 UTC  

It would just allow top industries to officially recommend things to the Commons which would help make the country more business friendly

2020-01-20 20:07:58 UTC  

@GalaxyBrainer What if Corbyn is pulling a 4D chess move to delegitimise the House of Lords in the eyes of Conservatives by trying to get Bercow in there?

2020-01-20 20:08:11 UTC  

he absolutely is not

2020-01-20 20:08:38 UTC  

the house of lords is already delegitimised in the eyes of the tories anyway

2020-01-20 20:09:08 UTC  

like, the current thing that's in the running, the plans being run through the govt, is the stuff for the house of regions and nations - replacing the lords with an elected body composed of representatives of regions outside of london

2020-01-20 20:09:26 UTC  

Blair did a much better job of delegitimising the Lords

2020-01-20 20:09:32 UTC  

"the progressive left" are directly in opposition to hierarchy

2020-01-20 20:09:35 UTC  

it empowers the vote without skewing the favour

2020-01-20 20:09:49 UTC  

So reinforcing hereditary lords would be the best option, if you're a reactionary

2020-01-20 20:10:30 UTC  

random HOL duty, like jury duty

2020-01-20 20:11:19 UTC  

that's even worse

2020-01-20 20:11:39 UTC  

honestly, just giving the average voter more power

2020-01-20 20:11:42 UTC  

I will say

2020-01-20 20:11:45 UTC  

is really the best thing to futureproof the country

2020-01-20 20:11:51 UTC  

The HoL could have survived for ages longer

2020-01-20 20:11:58 UTC  

if it hadn't opposed Brexit

2020-01-20 20:12:00 UTC  

there's not much that's worse than an annual addition of crony politicians, mostly the types who really sucked up and sleazed their way through the commons

2020-01-20 20:12:04 UTC  

literally shot itself in the face

2020-01-20 20:12:15 UTC  

by fighting with the only party that had supported it

2020-01-20 20:12:28 UTC  

And with the only voters that supported it

2020-01-20 20:13:43 UTC  

naughty lords

2020-01-20 20:14:09 UTC  

i do like the idea of moving it up north

2020-01-20 20:14:17 UTC  

don't have an answer for you - they worked well in the days of landed gentry. they don't make sense in a globalised world

2020-01-20 20:14:24 UTC  

moving what

2020-01-20 20:14:39 UTC  

it would reduce the londoncentric nature a touch

2020-01-20 20:14:43 UTC  

They better not create some new parliament building for them in York if they do move

2020-01-20 20:14:45 UTC  

and the world isn't "globalised" that's what the internationalists want

2020-01-20 20:14:49 UTC  

theres a proposal to move HOL to york

2020-01-20 20:14:55 UTC  

I've seen what new parliament buildings look like

2020-01-20 20:15:06 UTC  

Especially in Scotland

2020-01-20 20:15:20 UTC  

not needed really, just move what controls it to everywhere outside of london

2020-01-20 20:15:51 UTC  

there is no point in moving them in the modern context

2020-01-20 20:15:52 UTC  

What would become of old HOL chamber?

2020-01-20 20:16:05 UTC