and also puts labour in a weird position because obviously they'd want to denounce yeeting it to block bercow being a peer but then that'd go against their whole ranting against that house being a thing

Get rid of the fake lords

Dame Lawrence et al

Lord achmed of Rotherham who was implicated in child abuse, is peak new labour

The House of Lords is a major problem

Electing it would make it worse but allowing it to continue how it is still pretty bad

the house of regions and nations is a better idea since it keeps london out of it

It should be cut down to a small number of hereditary Lords with advisory powers only

Each lord and his line can be ousted by vote

And replaced by vote

Why don't we just give the biggest industries of the UK the seats? As a major part of the British Economy i think they should be entitled to a say in policy

no

that

that's an awful idea

Why?

It would encourage businesses to stay

because they would just try and fudge it to suit them the most

they create jobs

Do y'all want Oligarchs?

That's how you get oligarchs

Hereditary lords only

i dont care anymore, i just dont want the progressive left

They wouldn't have much actual power

The Lords can't force through anything against the Commons will

stupid

that might be the only thing leohte has said that i agree with - i think the HO lords was probably more trustworthy when it was just hereditary peers and not jammed to the rafters with zombie politicians carrying out their final marching orders from their past party

It would just allow top industries to officially recommend things to the Commons which would help make the country more business friendly

@GalaxyBrainer What if Corbyn is pulling a 4D chess move to delegitimise the House of Lords in the eyes of Conservatives by trying to get Bercow in there?

he absolutely is not

the house of lords is already delegitimised in the eyes of the tories anyway

like, the current thing that's in the running, the plans being run through the govt, is the stuff for the house of regions and nations - replacing the lords with an elected body composed of representatives of regions outside of london

Blair did a much better job of delegitimising the Lords

"the progressive left" are directly in opposition to hierarchy

it empowers the vote without skewing the favour

So reinforcing hereditary lords would be the best option, if you're a reactionary

random HOL duty, like jury duty

that's even worse

honestly, just giving the average voter more power

I will say

is really the best thing to futureproof the country

The HoL could have survived for ages longer