Zetsubou no hi, I think?

Well that's what happens when you tell the peasants it's the landowners who are causing their problems

so they all get killed or driven out

and then no food

And then pheasants are called kulaks

well i think that the majority of the harvest shortfall in that period was cause by natural phenomena

obviously the change in how farms were managed would lead to some short term disruption as well

Hm

No I think the majority was caused by killing the people who knew what they were doing

and giving the farms to people who didn't

look at the widespread killing of livestock

just like in Zimbabwe kind of deal

the most thorough analysis i've seen comes from mark tauger which iirc estimates that around 75% of the harvest shortfall stemmed from natural causes

they got rid of the people who knew how to farm

stalin saw that as an act of war during a famine

boom, famine

People don't care about fields they don't own as much. There's so many accounts of this

zimbabwe isn't quite the same though

@fvriovs thats not how the famine occured

in zimbabwe they gave farms to people who had no farming experience

So it's exactly the same

in the ussr they just put them under the joint management of peasants and the state

no it's not the same

Zimbabwe had a famine because they kicked the white farmers out

Yeah that seems to be the case

you could argue that the peasants didn't know how to manage the farm or didn't have the proper incentives in place

but obviously they had farming experience

@ubermensch its weird how china has been racked with massive famines regularly since prehistoric times then after mao , one last famine and thrn they stopped hmmm

since they were peasants

And I'm sure the black people working on the farms in Zimbabwe knew how to use a plough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/680163595409293379/Capitalism.jpg

doesn't mean they can run the farm

China is currently the manager of a highly productive capitalism in their country

no they didn't have farming experience

who would win:
>> communist country
>> one virus

afaik

I mean

It’s been that way since 1977

@BabaBooey there haven't had consecutive famines since prehistoric times, you DO know that, right? There's generally a long period of time between two famines....

Same with Vietnam