Message from @ʀeaper
Discord ID: 601626674303336460
Tribes
post scarcity focuses on overall production rate which is fair but switching to a purely consumption based society would trigger stagnation
I will call my tribe Israel
Then the governemt can't get us
A new nation of Israel
It depends on the growth of supply verses growth of demand
We will be seperatists
There are limitations to people's demands
thinking like that is the problem
the cycle doesnt end because our immediate needs are met
What do you mean?
there arent any limitations
if rate of change of supply is greater than rate of change of demand assuming both values are sustainable at the start then there is no way it can stagnate assuming constant influx
Vienna blacks ok
Not really my type
it stagnates because of a lack of competition
why so?
People would have needs and demands and aspirations and they would establish their workplaces to follow suit and produce at quality
The quality of goods wouldn't be limited to what is profitable
exactly
Of course not, it'd just be a net increase in quality, difference is needs would consistently be met?
there will always be more to gather more to explore more improvements to be made
Right
so you can establish that standard but not much beyond that
That's not necessarily true if the aim is to perfect it and if there is a demand for better iterations of product?
any development would be very slow no incentive to innovate no competition to drive innovation
Does development solely stem from competition?
a system based in personal production continues this while still maintaining that standard
so why sell yourself short?
This comes from the assumption that development solely stems from competition and that market competition is the only form of competition substantial to development
i never said that
i said your system would be inferior not impossible
No no I get that
but how would your system maintain the value of products if ever user has their own means of production?
not everyone produces the same thing
without labor how would one accumulate currency to begin with?
im not a communist
I mean without working how would someone earn a wage to earn start a transaction in such a future where everybody has a means of production?
a cycle would start
there would be initial investments into the automation then it would just switch hands and receive improvements from there