I was previously a market socialist

Automation seems to be an inevitable trend and the decrease of value as a result appears to point towards socialism in the future wherever far or near I cannot claim.

Communism seems to be the system that maximises individual liberty the most

(I'm not a good commie? 😢 )

However I suppose I'm a commie insofar as one points out the flaws of it being an end goal

the libertarian theory is personal production in that a future society will reach a point where the cost of automation is cheap enough to allow average people to produce and sell their own goods

this stems from the concept that the issues linked to automation stem from cost of investment

Tribes

post scarcity focuses on overall production rate which is fair but switching to a purely consumption based society would trigger stagnation

I will call my tribe Israel

Then the governemt can't get us

A new nation of Israel

It depends on the growth of supply verses growth of demand

We will be seperatists

There are limitations to people's demands

thinking like that is the problem

the cycle doesnt end because our immediate needs are met

What do you mean?

there arent any limitations

if rate of change of supply is greater than rate of change of demand assuming both values are sustainable at the start then there is no way it can stagnate assuming constant influx

Vienna blacks ok

Not really my type

it stagnates because of a lack of competition

why so?

People would have needs and demands and aspirations and they would establish their workplaces to follow suit and produce at quality

The quality of goods wouldn't be limited to what is profitable

exactly

but that doesnt mean its the end

Of course not, it'd just be a net increase in quality, difference is needs would consistently be met?

there will always be more to gather more to explore more improvements to be made

Right

so you can establish that standard but not much beyond that

That's not necessarily true if the aim is to perfect it and if there is a demand for better iterations of product?

any development would be very slow no incentive to innovate no competition to drive innovation

Does development solely stem from competition?

a system based in personal production continues this while still maintaining that standard

so why sell yourself short?

This comes from the assumption that development solely stems from competition and that market competition is the only form of competition substantial to development

i never said that

i said your system would be inferior not impossible

No no I get that