American manufacturers literally had to learn how to innovate

well I feel like it was regulation that made US companies complacent

Also yeah, targeting ships and having literally no emissions regulations on passenger cars we'd still be coming out ahead.

if there had been no regulation on cars at all, the US companies would have had to compete with foreign cars anyway, and properly, without any barriers

so they'd have innovated sooner

@LOGiK Right, but they only had to compete via making their engines bigger

The gas crisis wasn't a thing yet, and fuel was cheap

More cylinders = more power. No need to make things 'efficient' or w/e lol

well, not really, bigger displacement means more weight

means worse handling

means slower to an extent

that's why smol turbo engines do so well

We're debating the design philosophy of automobile regions at this point

I'm saying that without the US regulation, US cars would have ended up being outshon by foreign cars anyway and that would have pushed them to innovate

I'm not saying the big displacement wouldn't have also been a thing, just that they wouldn't have gone so big and might have done smaller stuff instead to compete

especially if with the deletion of regulation a lot of barriers to entering the US market were removed as well

it's all hypothetical though sadly

I want a window into parallel universes

so I can see how all different things play out

idk why this is even a debateable topic. I thought it was common knowledge about American 'muscle cars' and large displacement engines prior to the gas crisis.

Yes, you're right about 'performance', but there wasn't really even a competition between the regions yet. Different vehicles for different kinds of roads.

And turbos weren't common yet, until the advent of CAD and more precision engineering

Not until the mid-80s

ITC: insanely low level conversations masked as high level ones with yellow prose.

what if they're GREEN

what then

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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/16/bmw-isetta-microlino-bubble-car/

Commies...

For my Bristish friends...

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Merkur

haha

Sierra

bruh

Yeah, they were a marketing nightmare here

Fox body mustang is still better though

but you got the Focus now

just took a little time

But it's wrong wheel drive