Message from @Broo TulsiGang 2024 πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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2019-02-06 22:47:28 UTC  

@MountainMan So yeah, I'm just confused where you got the idea that community welfare and charity somehow had to be compulsory.

This is so far removed from the truth, it hurts lol

Up until mid part of the 20th century, charity was completely voluntary, and it actually operated *better* than it did before welfare. (At least, in Anglo nations, where we don't leave old people outside to die...)

Within communities, altruism among an in-group is a part of human nature, as long as the emergent phenomenon is not interfered with, which is what happened with the introduction of welfare.

Prior to welfare, you saw very little in the way of individual homelessness and starvation, as long as there was a community to facilitate the assistance.
This also meant that recurrence was less of an issue, because it was assumed you would pay back the assistance in some way, else face ostracization. The use of charity truly was a 'net' in the sense that you did not stay in that position, and those providing it wanted you to be off of it as soon as possible.

The most common welfare nets of the day were those of your local church, and being a participating member insured that in the event you fell on hard times, you would not be in fear of being left out in the cold. Service guaranteed safety, in a sense.

As to the modern phenomenon of people not giving to charity, I would argue that its a byproduct of compulsory welfare taxation, which simultaneously eliminated the need to belong to a church for social safety, and created a monopoly on charitable resources by making people think they no longer had to donate to charity, because it had already been done via taxation.

Also, bonus statistic: In the US, Republicans donate to charity more than Democrats by an overwhelming margin, even though we have welfare programs.

Also, 91% of people who identify as religious are likely to donate to charity.

2019-02-06 22:52:30 UTC  

Noted and written down. Thanks for the thorough answer.

2019-02-06 22:56:05 UTC  

πŸ‘Œ

2019-02-06 22:57:43 UTC  

Meh. Maybe my point of view came from mostly listening to what other people say. And now that I think about it dosent really reflect reality. Me and my whole family donate all the time. <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

2019-02-06 22:58:15 UTC  

blind org gang

2019-02-07 15:11:11 UTC  

reading this wikipedia about John Von Neumann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann -> suddenly find this gem: "During a Senate committee hearing he described his political ideology as "violently anti-communist, and much more militaristic than the norm". He was quoted in 1950 remarking, "If you say why not bomb [the Soviets] tomorrow, I say, why not today? If you say today at five o'clock, I say why not one o'clock?"[144]"

2019-02-07 15:11:38 UTC  

smartest man in the world (arguably) -> unironically would've pre-emptively nuked commies

2019-02-07 16:57:40 UTC  

@Fitzydog good speech

2019-02-08 01:29:19 UTC  

Damn, I never heard of that. Very interesting and terrifying

2019-02-08 19:34:45 UTC  

interesting

2019-02-09 19:16:56 UTC  

united states weren't a western ally in 1940

2019-02-09 19:17:02 UTC  

wasn't?

2019-02-09 19:19:25 UTC  

battle of britain is missing!

2019-02-09 21:57:43 UTC  

it only shows allied bombing, not Axis

2019-02-09 21:59:13 UTC  

- but German bombings would seem rather small amount in comparison (not that it would have felt like that at the time)

2019-02-11 12:27:26 UTC  

haha

2019-02-11 14:56:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532966360519802890/544532095863619594/image0.jpg

2019-02-11 20:20:53 UTC  

πŸ‘Œ

My 1950s Conservative Daughter 2019. Colourised

2019-02-11 23:01:12 UTC  

Well culinary science is a thing, but it's not "cooking"

2019-02-12 00:15:51 UTC  

It boils down to it for the most part, nutrition with an emphasis on the preperation and taste/serving.

2019-02-12 00:16:20 UTC  

Went to culinary school for half a year before realizing it was a dead end field.

2019-02-12 04:02:57 UTC  

*heh heh heh*

*Muh-cock*

2019-02-12 07:11:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532966360519802890/544777623394582528/2019-02-12_01_10_34-1548202346948.jpg_40572840.png

2019-02-13 01:30:31 UTC  

https://imgur.com/gallery/k5m0IDx pictures released of the just found carrier USS hornet

2019-02-13 06:46:16 UTC  

whoa, thats pretty cool

2019-02-13 08:14:14 UTC  

Im surprised it stayed whole like that.

2019-02-13 08:14:45 UTC  

Looks like it skid to a hault on the bottom too

2019-02-13 08:24:41 UTC  

i think the shadow is especially neat

2019-02-13 12:30:31 UTC  

Wasn't it scuttled?