Message from @radeon

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2017-11-06 19:48:09 UTC  

could it perhaps be that civilizations that embrace meritocracy do the best?

2017-11-06 19:48:13 UTC  

Implying implications

2017-11-06 19:49:03 UTC  

did i said that all blacks have the same IQ i have? nope, i'm just saying that it isn't that uncommon, plus, individuals with 120+ are rare, independent of their races

2017-11-06 19:49:19 UTC  

has it occurred to anyone that the cultural construct that is 'blackness' in the US which totally rejects meritocracy as 'being white' could perhaps contribute to the IQ deficit?

2017-11-06 19:49:31 UTC  

@radeon Why would meritocracy be more prevalent in Caucasian countries than in Negroid countries? The Chinese do not live in a meritocracy, yet their average IQ is higher than that of white countries.

2017-11-06 19:49:41 UTC  

the Japanese do

2017-11-06 19:49:44 UTC  

so do the jews

2017-11-06 19:49:55 UTC  

and there are plenty of white cultures that aren't meritocratic

2017-11-06 19:50:13 UTC  

Right, cultural factors

2017-11-06 19:50:28 UTC  

That doesn't make racial differences go away

2017-11-06 19:50:30 UTC  

You just made the claim that meritocracy results in a higher average IQ, and since the Chinese live in a strictly collectivist system, your hypothesis can be deemed to be false

2017-11-06 19:50:40 UTC  

they don't though

2017-11-06 19:50:43 UTC  

they don't

2017-11-06 19:51:04 UTC  

They are far more collectivist culturally

2017-11-06 19:51:05 UTC  

i don't know how much you know about modern china but they are capitalism in a pseudo-communist framework

2017-11-06 19:51:19 UTC  

they don't value hard work as much as they value the quantity of work

2017-11-06 19:51:33 UTC  

China is more capitalist than America in fact

2017-11-06 19:51:39 UTC  

Also, the vast majority of African countries live in a capitalist system, so the idea that meritocracy could have effected the IQ within a few centuries to such an extent is just ridiculous, especially when you consider the brain volume differences within the races, as well as genetic variations

2017-11-06 19:51:44 UTC  

At least that's what i hear

2017-11-06 19:51:47 UTC  

they build apartment complexes that house nobody simply to support a housing bubble

2017-11-06 19:52:02 UTC  

same with the chinese really. Poor work ethics, and poor overall efficiency, but a LOT of work hours makes up for it.

2017-11-06 19:52:05 UTC  

sorry Japanese*

2017-11-06 19:52:26 UTC  

yea im sure zimbabwe is a real ancap paradise my dude

2017-11-06 19:52:31 UTC  

Meritocracy is more than just capitalism

2017-11-06 19:52:36 UTC  

Meritocracy does not result in a higher average IQ, unless you can point me to a study which proves such a claim

2017-11-06 19:53:08 UTC  

did you just skip the chapter of history class where the ANC took ideoligcal contro lof southern africa with backing by the soviet union?

2017-11-06 19:53:25 UTC  

We're considering complex factors. Don't demand a study for such an abstract idea

2017-11-06 19:53:47 UTC  

you're trying to shift the burden of proof.

2017-11-06 19:53:50 UTC  

you came to us.

2017-11-06 19:53:51 UTC  

There are many perfectly reasonable explanations to IQ variations, that can be proved by looking at genetics and differing evolutionary pressures on populations living in different environments.

2017-11-06 19:54:11 UTC  

Then we need more race mixing

2017-11-06 19:54:20 UTC  

Lol why?

2017-11-06 19:54:28 UTC  

@franti To lower the IQ of whites and Asians? That's stupid

2017-11-06 19:54:50 UTC  

what is your alternative?

2017-11-06 19:55:05 UTC  

heh, franti, there was an end blurb of a news report here about IQ ceilings being reached, that suggested we go out and find us an East Asian mate

2017-11-06 19:55:10 UTC  

don't come to us spouting shit about blacks being inferior and then act coy when it comes to policy.

2017-11-06 19:55:15 UTC  

Going back to Africans nations being captialist

2017-11-06 19:55:20 UTC  

To not forcefully mix races and let individuals choose for themselves who they want to reproduce with? @radeon

2017-11-06 19:55:36 UTC  

whos forcing races to mix?