Message from @Apotheosis
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Because kids can't make individual judgments, while adults can (some exceptions).
Leave kids to the wolves then?
Their parents as individuals can make those judgments for them? True, but on what grounds is this a bad judgment made for him? What stops his best direction of "personal growth" being becoming the best boy-tranny ever?
He's performing sexualized acts for the enjoyment of adults.
So, it's societal intervention
That's not normal behavior for kids.
Why don't we let pedos have sex with kids?
Why don't we let people have slaves?
You tell me, aren't we violating individual rights here? what if the child consents? (I'm being facetious)
how does individualism address the rights of children
What about the rights of hospitalized people that are unconscious?
huh?
If I take advantage of a person that's unconscious, is that bad?
Say, raping an unconscious person.
That person will never know.
I could answer that, but I don't see the relevance
My point is, we delegate to society the responsibility to defend people that can't defend themselves.
Applies to unconscious people. Mentally ill people that can't make rational decisions. And children.
Yea, we delegate to the goverment the responsibility to defend people's rights
A doctor can convince a patient to do something not in the patient's best interest. That person isn't deficient in any way, other than lacking medical knowledge that the doctor is using to take advantage of the patient.
for an adult it's just his responsibility though
The kid is having his sexuality exploited.
That doesn't happen naturally. That's why we derive the conclusion it's the adults around him doing it.
okay so he is still treated as an individual, it's just that his individual rights are being violated because he cannot consent to sexual exploitation as a child
Also keeping in mind that, barring exceptional cases, the child is too young to be self-aware enough to understand sexuality. Think of this as the kid jumping into a hole without seeing what's at the bottom, by trying to transition at this point he's making major life decisions without knowledge of the decision he's making.
Yes, we assume kids don't have autonomy for many decisions. Kids aren't adults.
right
This server should add some political subroles (Liberalist, Libertrain, Progressive, exc.).
If it did, I'd do as best to avoid them as much as I can.
Not that I'm centrist, I doubt it, I just don't want a label slapped on my head.
It's going to leave implications that might be wholly inaccurate.
Yea, unless you let people make their own subrole, well at least mitigate.
Alright how about this: we are still deciding as society what the best course of his life should be and enforcing it if we intervene here
here, we are deciding what this individual should want and should be
it just isn't allowed to be anything sexual since he's a child
but the reasoning for this doesn't have anything to do with violation of individual rights does it?
an outside force is deciding what his well-being should be... because he isn't capable of knowing the right decision?
Children should be left to wolves
would that not apply to people outside of just children, unconscious or disabled?
No cpr for anybody
Mentally incapacitated and uneducated about the relevant topic too.