huh?

If I take advantage of a person that's unconscious, is that bad?

Say, raping an unconscious person.

That person will never know.

I could answer that, but I don't see the relevance

My point is, we delegate to society the responsibility to defend people that can't defend themselves.

Applies to unconscious people. Mentally ill people that can't make rational decisions. And children.

Yea, we delegate to the goverment the responsibility to defend people's rights

A doctor can convince a patient to do something not in the patient's best interest. That person isn't deficient in any way, other than lacking medical knowledge that the doctor is using to take advantage of the patient.

in the case of the boy becoming a tranny, it is liberal policy then to come his defense

for an adult it's just his responsibility though

The kid is having his sexuality exploited.

That doesn't happen naturally. That's why we derive the conclusion it's the adults around him doing it.

okay so he is still treated as an individual, it's just that his individual rights are being violated because he cannot consent to sexual exploitation as a child

Also keeping in mind that, barring exceptional cases, the child is too young to be self-aware enough to understand sexuality. Think of this as the kid jumping into a hole without seeing what's at the bottom, by trying to transition at this point he's making major life decisions without knowledge of the decision he's making.

Yes, we assume kids don't have autonomy for many decisions. Kids aren't adults.

right

This server should add some political subroles (Liberalist, Libertrain, Progressive, exc.).

If it did, I'd do as best to avoid them as much as I can.
Not that I'm centrist, I doubt it, I just don't want a label slapped on my head.

It's going to leave implications that might be wholly inaccurate.

Yea, unless you let people make their own subrole, well at least mitigate.

Alright how about this: we are still deciding as society what the best course of his life should be and enforcing it if we intervene here

here, we are deciding what this individual should want and should be

it just isn't allowed to be anything sexual since he's a child

but the reasoning for this doesn't have anything to do with violation of individual rights does it?

an outside force is deciding what his well-being should be... because he isn't capable of knowing the right decision?

Children should be left to wolves

would that not apply to people outside of just children, unconscious or disabled?

No cpr for anybody

Mentally incapacitated and uneducated about the relevant topic too.

e.g. women and kids that got lobotomized back when it was cool

It seems that sometimes a societal entity or member of an incapacitated or not-fully-matured individual must make a decision for them, but what is the basis of this moral decision?

what counts as "defense" for a child/incapable person?

The basis is maxisization of individial liberty, that means you make sure they regain their ability to chose if deprived and make sure most if not all choices are reserved when they regain their ability to chose for themself.

Or you leave them for dead

Surely this individual liberty can't come at the expense of that of others, right?

Yes

But also surely, people should be allowed to compete under some conception of a meritocracy. That would result in the meritorious triumphing over not meritorious, at their expense.

However that would be a valid expense, yes?

not everyone can have the "liberty" to be the best

Yes