classical liberalism seems right wing because the window got shifted

If the progressive, left-wing movement is illiberal, then liberals are conservatives.

They are ready. Liberal isn't an antithetical definition to conservative

Mhm

Progressive is the opposite of conservative, and people will tell you they're both liberal. (But progs aren't, cause utilitarianism)

There’s going to be a shift soon, and the pendulum will change directions to the right, just as it went left in the 60’s, as a result of the liberals becoming conservatives due to perspective

Nah, that's not how it works anymore. Leftist philosophy is being destroyed before our eyes. We'll see a shift to politics more similar pre-WW2 dichotomies

(In my opinion)

Well, back in the 50’s and before, conservatism was deeply rooted everywhere, and being a lefty was counterculture and weird. Now, leftism is everywhere, and liberalism/conservatism is counterculture. But it is possible that the democrats/left go back to pre-WWII as they struggle to survive. Could even be a party flip flop, where the left tries to go back and the right moves forward. That’d be weird.

Anyway, good talking to ya, but I need some sleep. Adieu

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@Deleted User Ancaps are a subset of libertarians. Not all libertarians are ancaps.

@Deleted User is a commie
it's sort of expected that she'd conflate libertarians with ancaps

@Deleted User I think any average person would. It's not exactly a mainstream concept

that's because they're sheeple

No, it's because not everyone is a politics nerd like we are lol

lol

He is actually right in this one

For real, when you take a step back from all this, you feel like you arw taking small stuff way too seriously

who?

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Fitz

Take a month break of reading politics, and the world will seems perfect

That's why I understand people who don't see "the cultural war" or "the Muslim problem"

Even the problem with illegal migration

It's like the Man Behind the Curtain from wizard of oz

They are just uniformed about a subject

And since their lives are going without problems, they don't care

Which seems to be a bigger problem, if most people aren't taking into consideration externalities for their long term plans

@Fitzydog
Yeah

To understand the problems, and their implications

You have to actually look for it

Inform yourself about what's happening

And most people just don't do that

no wonder people can act so ignorant about a problem/issue

No, I'm not a communist.

I don't bother learning what anarcho-anything means, because I know the person identifying with it is a lunatic.

@Deleted User well, considering you were wanting to ban people off the server because they said something you didn't like, you kinda sound like a commie.

Well, if you think that too much government involvement is a bad thing, anarchism doesn't sound all too crazy @DanielKO