Message from @Jimmy Marr

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2017-07-10 18:44:32 UTC  

What was the official charge filed?

2017-07-10 18:44:39 UTC  

There are articles all over. Read Those. They admit why they jailed me and it came down to sensitivity

2017-07-10 18:45:21 UTC  

Disturbing the peace? Inciting violence? What was the charge?

2017-07-10 18:45:27 UTC  

The original charges numbered 6. Criminal mischief III

2017-07-10 18:45:51 UTC  

THEY SPECULATED could be incitement, or tgreatebing language

2017-07-10 18:46:07 UTC  

But did you get sentenced?

2017-07-10 18:46:14 UTC  

Doing jail time?

2017-07-10 18:46:15 UTC  

Jews almost got involved in a hate crime

2017-07-10 18:47:41 UTC  

So what did you actually do though? Did you threaten anyone (or what couldve been misconstrued as such)

2017-07-10 18:48:03 UTC  

Did you just walk around with a swastika flag? Or is this regarding the truck?

2017-07-10 18:52:06 UTC  

Because surely there would be another variable

2017-07-10 18:54:35 UTC  

Why are you so interested in getting information from us about our history? You asked me similar questions.

2017-07-10 18:54:50 UTC  

Do you want my address?

2017-07-10 19:09:52 UTC  

I think @khimære just wants to understand how the swastika, while not illegal, could lead to someone's arrest. The answer is quite simple. They were posted on someone else's private property.

2017-07-10 19:10:53 UTC  

Jimmy that's not quite the whole story.

2017-07-10 19:11:11 UTC  

But I think @Australopithecus Jordan has a good point.

2017-07-10 19:14:05 UTC  

No, it's not the whole story, but I didn't want to tell the part about you self-reporting your crime.

2017-07-10 19:14:49 UTC  

lol

2017-07-10 19:16:26 UTC  

Jimmy is right. It might not be the whole story, but it's the part that counts. You weren't arrested over a swastika; they may not have liked your swastikas, but the charges they were able to file on you stemmed from the manner in which you distributed your opinions. You should be intellectually honest about that.

2017-07-10 19:16:38 UTC  

I'm of the opinion that the biggest failing on our part is the rejection of valuable operatives over their choice of tactics and strategies. Choosing to wear a mask does not necessarily undermine the opportunities of those choosing not to wear masks, nor vice versa. Choosing to implement SIEGE does not necessarily undermine the efforts of those choosing to implement Rules for Radicals, nor vice versa. We aren't losing because persons favoring one strategy or the other are "wrong," as the core disagreement there is really about effectiveness. We lose because we elevate the effectiveness argument to such a lofty place of importance that it becomes personalized, and we then feel compelled to reject a person simply because they disagree with me over wearing a tie/boots/mask...

2017-07-10 19:18:10 UTC  

^^^. Incidentally, I wore a tie on the day of the "JEWS DID 911" demonstration and I don't think it hurt me in the eyes of the cop who responded.

2017-07-10 19:18:12 UTC  

The flyers drew attention only because of the swastikas

2017-07-10 19:18:26 UTC  

Medford got the same treatment and didnt give 1 fuck

2017-07-10 19:19:02 UTC  

And they were only able to criminalize those swastikas due to the method by which you procured them.

2017-07-10 19:21:31 UTC  

Yes, the swastika flyers drew attention, but @khimære already knows that swastikas draw attention. He wants to know how that attention gets translated into an arrest.

2017-07-10 19:22:07 UTC  

By people complaining and filing charges

2017-07-10 19:24:51 UTC  

People can complain all they want, but that doesn't lead to an arrest if no crime was committed.

2017-07-10 19:27:25 UTC  

The reason I'm belaboring this point is not to condemn you, @Wehrmacht . It's to help you clarify your thinking. Your insistence the the swastika caused your arrest leads to the type of thinking you were doing the other day when you declared "no swastikas or I'm out".

2017-07-10 19:27:34 UTC  

There was no crime. Thats why charges got dropped

2017-07-10 19:28:16 UTC  

Do what you want. Ive made myself pretty clear as to why I think the way I do.

2017-07-10 19:28:31 UTC  

The was a crime you got arrested, paid the price and could learn from your mistake if you would but acknowledge it.

2017-07-10 19:28:42 UTC  

40 flyers with no swastikas got ignored. 5 with swastikas got me jail. What's the denominator ?

2017-07-10 19:29:00 UTC  

The imagery

2017-07-10 19:30:24 UTC  

We're not looking for a common denominator. We're looking at the cause of your arrest which is, beyond and shadow of a doubt the fact the you taped your flyers to private businesses and then posted a photograph of yourself with the incriminating evidence on the Internet.

2017-07-10 19:34:06 UTC  

The cause was that, while other flyers existed o. The same businesses, they didmt lile MY flyers

2017-07-10 19:34:15 UTC  

On the*

2017-07-10 19:34:56 UTC  

Even the professor of law that BuzzFeed contacted agreed it was a back hole loophole designed to punish my freedom of speech because they didn't like it that should tell you something

2017-07-10 19:35:40 UTC  

The pic was big but not why they visited me

2017-07-10 19:35:47 UTC  

I believe the point some are trying to make is that if you hadn't put them up where you did, it wouldn't have mattered who liked them and who didn't.

2017-07-10 19:36:38 UTC  

Is there any evidence of that? Because I put my flyers right next to other flyers that existed on some of these businesses which means they're okay with some flyers but not others

2017-07-10 19:37:07 UTC  

Clearly dependent upon the elements or context of the propaganda apparently