yeah, it's pretty deep

there's more to the orthodox east tho

at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too

byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.

it really is

and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards

the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'

of course, this pisses off the byzantiens

the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'

and so the schism began

and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other

orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.

pope was his own thing

then the crusades happened, yay

Ayy. Cool!

after the byzantine emperor was like "I need your help."

"Turks, seriously, they're terrible."

Hhaahaahah

"Actually, no, they're muslims. All muslims are the same, just help me.|"

hehe

Yeah lmao

And I guess the west of europe didnt help?

help with what

lol

Considering the downfall of the byzantines

ahhh

help the byzantines

right, yeah they kind of ignored them

they didn't care about the byzantines at all

i dont know if the pope outright considered them heretical

but they didn't care for them anyway

besides, europeans were busy fighting each other

the crusades were purely for self gain

the 'help' was an excuse to go and visit

in 1204 ad, the 'latins' (as the byzantines called them) conquered constantinople for about 60 years

byzantines are more accurately greeks

and the mixed peoples of anatolia (modern turkey)

wait, was this when salladin ruled the ayybid sultanate?

yeah around that time

saladin was 12th century

Ahh okay. Then I understand