Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?
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but he got desperate, because it was the dark ages
and the 'barbarians' were everywhere
Yes hahahaha
so pepin was this catholic king of the franks that came along
and he did a donation to the pope
and that formed the papal states
before that, the pope was just living in rome
i dont know the full history
but that's the basic story, from what i know
Ahhh okay. Thanks man!
Cool af.
yeah, it's pretty deep
there's more to the orthodox east tho
at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too
byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.
it really is
and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards
the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'
of course, this pisses off the byzantiens
the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'
and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other
orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.
pope was his own thing
then the crusades happened, yay
Ayy. Cool!
after the byzantine emperor was like "I need your help."
"Turks, seriously, they're terrible."
Hhaahaahah
"Actually, no, they're muslims. All muslims are the same, just help me.|"
hehe
Yeah lmao
And I guess the west of europe didnt help?
help with what
lol
Considering the downfall of the byzantines
ahhh
help the byzantines
right, yeah they kind of ignored them
they didn't care about the byzantines at all
i dont know if the pope outright considered them heretical