Oh yeah

Konstantinyye

orthodox and roman catholicism used to be one church (sorta)

but then the pope, aka bishop of rome, was acting out

wanted more agency, didn't like the smelly lombards (they're german! ew, right?)

but he got desperate, because it was the dark ages

and the 'barbarians' were everywhere

Yes hahahaha

so pepin was this catholic king of the franks that came along

and he did a donation to the pope

and that formed the papal states

before that, the pope was just living in rome

i dont know the full history

but that's the basic story, from what i know

Ahhh okay. Thanks man!

Cool af.

yeah, it's pretty deep

there's more to the orthodox east tho

at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too

byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.

it really is

and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards

the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'

of course, this pisses off the byzantiens

the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'

and so the schism began

and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other

orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.

pope was his own thing

then the crusades happened, yay

Ayy. Cool!

after the byzantine emperor was like "I need your help."

"Turks, seriously, they're terrible."

Hhaahaahah

"Actually, no, they're muslims. All muslims are the same, just help me.|"

hehe

Yeah lmao

And I guess the west of europe didnt help?

help with what

lol

Considering the downfall of the byzantines