Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?
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Cool af.
yeah, it's pretty deep
there's more to the orthodox east tho
at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too
byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.
it really is
and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards
the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'
of course, this pisses off the byzantiens
the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'
and so the schism began
and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other
orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.
pope was his own thing
then the crusades happened, yay
Ayy. Cool!
after the byzantine emperor was like "I need your help."
"Turks, seriously, they're terrible."
Hhaahaahah
"Actually, no, they're muslims. All muslims are the same, just help me.|"
Yeah lmao
And I guess the west of europe didnt help?
help with what
lol
Considering the downfall of the byzantines
ahhh
help the byzantines
right, yeah they kind of ignored them
they didn't care about the byzantines at all
i dont know if the pope outright considered them heretical
but they didn't care for them anyway
besides, europeans were busy fighting each other
the crusades were purely for self gain
the 'help' was an excuse to go and visit
in 1204 ad, the 'latins' (as the byzantines called them) conquered constantinople for about 60 years
byzantines are more accurately greeks
and the mixed peoples of anatolia (modern turkey)
wait, was this when salladin ruled the ayybid sultanate?
yeah around that time
saladin was 12th century