Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2018-10-14 09:43:39 UTC  

Cool af.

2018-10-14 09:43:42 UTC  

yeah, it's pretty deep

2018-10-14 09:43:51 UTC  

there's more to the orthodox east tho

2018-10-14 09:45:05 UTC  

at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too

2018-10-14 09:45:28 UTC  

byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.

2018-10-14 09:45:41 UTC  

it really is

2018-10-14 09:45:59 UTC  

and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards

2018-10-14 09:46:05 UTC  

the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'

2018-10-14 09:46:10 UTC  

of course, this pisses off the byzantiens

2018-10-14 09:46:43 UTC  

the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'

2018-10-14 09:46:55 UTC  

and so the schism began

2018-10-14 09:47:09 UTC  

and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other

2018-10-14 09:47:25 UTC  

orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.

2018-10-14 09:47:31 UTC  

pope was his own thing

2018-10-14 09:47:40 UTC  

then the crusades happened, yay

2018-10-14 09:47:53 UTC  

Ayy. Cool!

2018-10-14 09:47:54 UTC  

after the byzantine emperor was like "I need your help."

2018-10-14 09:48:03 UTC  

"Turks, seriously, they're terrible."

2018-10-14 09:48:07 UTC  

Hhaahaahah

2018-10-14 09:48:13 UTC  

"Actually, no, they're muslims. All muslims are the same, just help me.|"

2018-10-14 09:48:15 UTC  

hehe

2018-10-14 09:48:29 UTC  

Yeah lmao

2018-10-14 09:48:42 UTC  

And I guess the west of europe didnt help?

2018-10-14 09:48:48 UTC  

help with what

2018-10-14 09:48:51 UTC  

lol

2018-10-14 09:48:54 UTC  

Considering the downfall of the byzantines

2018-10-14 09:48:57 UTC  

ahhh

2018-10-14 09:49:00 UTC  

help the byzantines

2018-10-14 09:49:09 UTC  

right, yeah they kind of ignored them

2018-10-14 09:49:21 UTC  

they didn't care about the byzantines at all

2018-10-14 09:49:43 UTC  

i dont know if the pope outright considered them heretical

2018-10-14 09:49:53 UTC  

but they didn't care for them anyway

2018-10-14 09:49:59 UTC  

besides, europeans were busy fighting each other

2018-10-14 09:50:13 UTC  

the crusades were purely for self gain

2018-10-14 09:50:23 UTC  

the 'help' was an excuse to go and visit

2018-10-14 09:50:55 UTC  

in 1204 ad, the 'latins' (as the byzantines called them) conquered constantinople for about 60 years

2018-10-14 09:52:05 UTC  

byzantines are more accurately greeks

2018-10-14 09:52:23 UTC  

and the mixed peoples of anatolia (modern turkey)

2018-10-14 09:52:45 UTC  

wait, was this when salladin ruled the ayybid sultanate?

2018-10-14 09:52:54 UTC  

yeah around that time

2018-10-14 09:52:59 UTC  

saladin was 12th century