Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2018-10-14 09:40:20 UTC  

so he holds a council of nicea in the 320s

2018-10-14 09:40:40 UTC  

to create catholicism (the universal theology, more or less)

2018-10-14 09:40:51 UTC  

and that's how that got started

2018-10-14 09:41:03 UTC  

and then arianism became heretical, because all those dirty germans are arian

2018-10-14 09:41:14 UTC  

and only true romans (tm) are the correct christians you know

2018-10-14 09:41:18 UTC  

lol

2018-10-14 09:41:21 UTC  

Ahh. So thats the history of how catholicism came to be.

2018-10-14 09:41:32 UTC  

but constantine did like one or two good things too

2018-10-14 09:41:38 UTC  

Any idea on how the orthodox came?

2018-10-14 09:41:39 UTC  

built constantinople

2018-10-14 09:41:42 UTC  

Oh yeah

2018-10-14 09:41:55 UTC  

Konstantinyye

2018-10-14 09:41:56 UTC  

orthodox and roman catholicism used to be one church (sorta)

2018-10-14 09:42:07 UTC  

but then the pope, aka bishop of rome, was acting out

2018-10-14 09:42:24 UTC  

wanted more agency, didn't like the smelly lombards (they're german! ew, right?)

2018-10-14 09:42:38 UTC  

but he got desperate, because it was the dark ages

2018-10-14 09:42:45 UTC  

and the 'barbarians' were everywhere

2018-10-14 09:42:49 UTC  

Yes hahahaha

2018-10-14 09:43:04 UTC  

so pepin was this catholic king of the franks that came along

2018-10-14 09:43:12 UTC  

and he did a donation to the pope

2018-10-14 09:43:17 UTC  

and that formed the papal states

2018-10-14 09:43:22 UTC  

before that, the pope was just living in rome

2018-10-14 09:43:26 UTC  

i dont know the full history

2018-10-14 09:43:31 UTC  

but that's the basic story, from what i know

2018-10-14 09:43:36 UTC  

Ahhh okay. Thanks man!

2018-10-14 09:43:39 UTC  

Cool af.

2018-10-14 09:43:42 UTC  

yeah, it's pretty deep

2018-10-14 09:43:51 UTC  

there's more to the orthodox east tho

2018-10-14 09:45:05 UTC  

at the same time the byzantines were menacing the pope, trying to get more power in italy and take away his influence, they had an officer called an 'exarch' in italy to handle affairs over there too

2018-10-14 09:45:28 UTC  

byzantines are aka - the romai, or 'east romans' as they called themselves, because of course, they were the 'true romans'; europeans fought over who was 'true roman' for centuries; that's like a running joke.

2018-10-14 09:45:41 UTC  

it really is

2018-10-14 09:45:59 UTC  

and so charlemagne comes along, conquers the lombards

2018-10-14 09:46:05 UTC  

the pope makes him 'emperor of the romans'

2018-10-14 09:46:10 UTC  

of course, this pisses off the byzantiens

2018-10-14 09:46:43 UTC  

the byzantine empress (a crazy lady who actually murdered her only son at the time) is like 'what, there can only be one roman emperor!'

2018-10-14 09:46:55 UTC  

and so the schism began

2018-10-14 09:47:09 UTC  

and then 200 years later, the schism was finished, there was some ecumenical council or other

2018-10-14 09:47:25 UTC  

orthodox church became its own thing with the patriarchs of constantinople and etc.

2018-10-14 09:47:31 UTC  

pope was his own thing

2018-10-14 09:47:40 UTC  

then the crusades happened, yay

2018-10-14 09:47:53 UTC  

Ayy. Cool!