always a pleasure to find another Spanish with 3 digits in the iq 😉 fighting the good fight...

and trump was sitting there all the time waiting on that drunkard to show up

that's 3bn that could have been going towards border protection

$110B lost per year cus of Illegals <:covfefe:440543908846632980>

Well, if the Dems hadn't filibustered, we wouldn't be in this situation.

I don't believe anything the guardian says

I also don't believe statistics coming from these outlets

Wasn't Trump originally asking for 5 million?

Well, that didn't go as he expected

so if the guardian or their sources say that the US lost 11 bln from the shutdown then I do not believe them

Billion

yea it all comes back to them. they try and say the republicans have had the house and sensate for two years. why not back them, well every time they did try the democrats did filler bust it to hell and back

The Dems have shown themselves to be massive hypocrites in this.

@nutsnax The source is the Congressional Budget Office

then I really don't believe it

Oh so 5 biliion

Holy shit

2013 Dems, "Let's build 350 miles of wall".
2019 Dems, "Orange Man Bad, we won't build less than that".

Well now the wall costs 8 Billion

they did use the poor workers that was not getting payed as a shield but refused to pass a bill to pay them

he must be aiming 4 "supreme skeptic"

all corporate media and government information outlets I treat as propaganda

They filibustered a bill which did nothing but pay the Coast Guard, didn't mention anything else, not even the wall.

Fucking disgusting of the Dems

they are Bolsheviks

@nutsnax Interesting, so what *do* you trust

virtually nothing

unless I'm able to, on some level, validate the information myself

I'll put it this way

and now Trump is sitting and waiting for the next 3 week until he pushes the big red button that gives him the power to build the wall using the defence budget 100 billion unallocated money

I trust CNN less than I trust Alex Jones

but I don't trust either of them

@Nordhand Yep, the Dems need to take his offer with DACA now or they get nothing and he gets as much wall as he fucking wants.

I don't trust CNN to report that rain is wet correctly

@nutsnax and that is a good way to put it

Epigenetics too

@Mr. Robo`tó that's pretty much how you have to be

everything with a grain of salt.... 😉

Is the EU guy complaining about 5 billion?

Thats the anual EU paperclip budget

however I will say that I don't think that Jones is a nefarious actor thus leading to my lack of trust, but I think he's a much smaller outlet with the potential for unreliable sources (think mom and pop vs walmart)