Message from @DJ Maci

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2017-07-11 18:19:54 UTC  

If it makes folks uncomfortable or has negative connotations. I tend to say that's everyone else's problem.

2017-07-11 18:20:39 UTC  

I see.

2017-07-11 18:22:14 UTC  

But to be fair perennialist/NS/fascist all mean the same thing to me, so I could probably just as easily use one of those labels, or even Sanatana Dharma, but given my nature I usually opt for the most cut & dry method.

2017-07-11 18:23:28 UTC  

I've got further logic behind the choice but I don't need to bore you with it here.

2017-07-11 18:25:08 UTC  

As you know, Serrano referred to this spirit as Lucifer-Wotan, and saw Hitler and the N.S. movement as on temporal manifestation of it. Typically the nomenclature of the spirit changes with the age in which in manifests.

2017-07-11 18:25:46 UTC  

The esoterists know it's the same thing, but the exoterics do not.

2017-07-11 18:29:17 UTC  

I don't dispute that. I dispute that we are in a different age. We are in the immediate shadow of its last arrival. I view us as being like the very early Christians to use the same tired metaphor that's never the less easy to understand. It is for us to carry the faith forward despite being fed to the lions. When the W.ill O.f T.he A.ryan N.ations manifest itself again, if at that point it chooses to associate new signs & symbols to our divine struggle then it will be up to that eras ppl to accept or reject.

2017-07-11 18:30:43 UTC  

But I do think there's no escape from the swastika tbh. You're as familiar as I am, I'm sure with its ancient ties to our ppl.

2017-07-11 18:36:13 UTC  

I don't even want to escape it. I love it. It's just a matter of where, when and in what context I want to display it, and whether or not I refer to myself as a N.S. while I'm doing it.

2017-07-11 18:44:38 UTC  

Right, there is some gray area to be had in between Manson forehead tattoos & hidden flags in closets. Again I have never excelled at grey, 40 years of black or white, so middle of the road is an admitted weak point for me. I suppose the argument that I'm making (along with a few others in this chat) Is that we will only ever really reach the revolutionary soul. The very thing that is a repellent to the average bald ape will act as bait to those souls accustomed to & comfortable with acting outside of the accepted norms, the revolutionary. My favorite part of Siege comes to mind "The crazy men of destiny"
That's who I'm on the look for.

2017-07-11 18:45:47 UTC  

I believe I'm talking to one of them now.

2017-07-11 18:48:05 UTC  

I wasn't talking.

2017-07-11 18:48:29 UTC  

Haha

2017-07-11 18:48:33 UTC  

heh

2017-07-11 20:15:52 UTC  

Reading Together! SIEGE by James Mason - Books - Iron March Forums
http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/5003-reading-together-siege-by-james-mason/&page=10

2017-07-11 20:17:21 UTC  

"To destroy the System is primary. To destroy the System without destroying ourselves is desirable. But with the System destroyed a new Age of Man can begin. One that can contain true justice and equitable solutions for all people. The Movement has always possessed sheaves of programs and ideas for building the Ideal State. But until the System is destroyed, by whatever means necessary, none of these fine plans will ever amount to anything more than a dream."

2017-07-11 20:49:03 UTC  

"If you suicide bomb you get 40 virgins from allah in utopia," that's what I've heard Muslims believe.

2017-07-11 20:56:02 UTC  

Destroying the system must be done on a psychological level first and foremost. The mind is a battlefield.

2017-07-11 20:56:36 UTC  

Does this fucking thing work or is this gonna be another thing that doesn't work?

2017-07-11 20:58:07 UTC  

yooo , my nigga khi on here

2017-07-11 20:58:33 UTC  

The power of the system is derived from people's ignorance/acceptance of it more so than from actual physical power.

2017-07-11 21:06:13 UTC  

^^^ I'm entertaining a different idea about this. I wrote about it a little bit the other day and probably will again, but now for now the important the for you to remember is that you are wrong, mkay?😀

2017-07-11 21:08:52 UTC  

@DJ Maci that truly is the question, isn't it?

2017-07-11 21:09:05 UTC  

I mean, you're right in that the people's fears are not confined to the prospects of physical violence and imprisonment, although those are certainly present for those of us who are more vociferous in our dissent. The fears of the masses lie further upstream in consciousness.

2017-07-11 21:14:02 UTC  

Most upstream of all is probably the prospect of social ostracisation (especially powerful over women), but having far reaching subconscious effects on women of both sexes.

2017-07-11 21:22:42 UTC  

This relates directly to the effects of enemy propaganda. It's not that they tell us what to think. It's that they tell us what our neighbors think. They tell us what "everybody else" thinks. And, most importantly, they tell us what the cool kids think. That's power because people fear failure, the appearance of failure and the ostracism that accompanies it. From an evolutionary standpoint ostracism from the tribe was not far removed from a death sentence. People fear it on a deeply unconscious level and they are perfectly capable of developing neurotic defense mechanisms for coping with it. They train themselves to systematically banish all thoughts (and therefore words) that would lead to transgression and it's fatal consequences. These, my friends, are the boundaries we must strive to publicly violate in order to free our racial kinsman from their mental enslavement.

2017-07-11 21:53:09 UTC  

"Destroying the system must be done on a psychological level first and foremost. The mind is a battlefield." Yep.

2017-07-11 22:08:41 UTC  

nuh uh. Pat says...

2017-07-11 22:08:43 UTC  
2017-07-11 22:55:12 UTC  

@Wehrmacht By that logic: many people who have died (making this their life's work) are failures, when they have done far more for the struggle than you have (IE: from Robert Jay Matthews to William Pierce). I would say that it is not ceasing to exist that is a failure, it is not leaving a legacy when you die.

2017-07-11 22:56:44 UTC  

@Wehrmacht >never form an elaborate sub-state much like the NSDAP before political rise to power >Implying you are

2017-07-11 22:57:18 UTC  

Tell me, exactly how *YOU* specifically are making steps toward establishing an ethnostate?

2017-07-11 23:00:42 UTC  

Let's just say that you guys have far more faith in the average person than I do. Those that are concerned with their neighbors thoughts to begin with will never be willing to break the social compact. The idea that you will be able to alter the way lemmings see themselves fitting into society by taking control of the narrative is even more far out than trying to physically assume power- neither of which are realistic goals at this point.

2017-07-11 23:05:55 UTC  

The system is full of cracks, they grow by the day, our sole job should be to aid in that break up, this will not be an overnight process. To Say that the system does not hold physical sway over the ppl is... dillussional. Again I think this view just comes from a lack of actually seeing the full might of the systems power in play domestically. Make no mistake about it, they physically own your ass.

2017-07-11 23:07:53 UTC  

We're doing a lot more than initiating nigger loving Muslims who turn on their kin

2017-07-11 23:08:25 UTC  

Jfc

2017-07-11 23:08:25 UTC  

How about that, you fucking wannabe?

2017-07-11 23:08:34 UTC  

Even though he turned out to be a traitor: even he has done more than you have.

2017-07-11 23:08:48 UTC  

Really guys?

2017-07-11 23:08:54 UTC  

Lol you're a lot of niggers m8