That was meant for your prior response

Yeah socialism is in the lexicon, too, and that's a problem, but I see the bigger problem as the connotation of a different nation (Germany) in a different era.

I think I'm with you @blackhat 16

Thread's moving a bit fast for an old man

Strictly as a metaphor, should Christians abandon Christ or the cross simply bc he was from a different era or locale? If a Christian follows that set of beliefs should they forsake the founder of their doctrine or it's symbols bc it has become "socially difficult"?

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I'm not saying N.S. is socially difficult, I'm saying I don't think it accurately describes who we are.

To me calling oneself an N.S. is not like being a christian. It's like calling yourself Christ.

Alright so there we do differ. You are dealing with all the fanaticism of the converted when dealing with me, I admit that. NS saved my life-period. Being that I am living days only granted to me through this awakening & spiritual epiphany, I have dedicated the remainder of my days to this most sacred of causes. For me we will be born again & again from era to era bc we are aligned with the one truth. I do not pretend to know "Christ" or compare myself to him, but I do intend to try & follow his works & example to the best of my humble abilities.

Are you talking about Hitler or Christ, or are they one and the same to you?

Well I am most assuredly not talking about Christ. But I was using that metaphor yes.

I see, so how is it that you feel we differ?

I don't see it as a "problem" to use the term that he himself used to describe his world view.

If it makes folks uncomfortable or has negative connotations. I tend to say that's everyone else's problem.

I see.

But to be fair perennialist/NS/fascist all mean the same thing to me, so I could probably just as easily use one of those labels, or even Sanatana Dharma, but given my nature I usually opt for the most cut & dry method.

I've got further logic behind the choice but I don't need to bore you with it here.

As you know, Serrano referred to this spirit as Lucifer-Wotan, and saw Hitler and the N.S. movement as on temporal manifestation of it. Typically the nomenclature of the spirit changes with the age in which in manifests.

The esoterists know it's the same thing, but the exoterics do not.

I don't dispute that. I dispute that we are in a different age. We are in the immediate shadow of its last arrival. I view us as being like the very early Christians to use the same tired metaphor that's never the less easy to understand. It is for us to carry the faith forward despite being fed to the lions. When the W.ill O.f T.he A.ryan N.ations manifest itself again, if at that point it chooses to associate new signs & symbols to our divine struggle then it will be up to that eras ppl to accept or reject.

But I do think there's no escape from the swastika tbh. You're as familiar as I am, I'm sure with its ancient ties to our ppl.

I don't even want to escape it. I love it. It's just a matter of where, when and in what context I want to display it, and whether or not I refer to myself as a N.S. while I'm doing it.

Right, there is some gray area to be had in between Manson forehead tattoos & hidden flags in closets. Again I have never excelled at grey, 40 years of black or white, so middle of the road is an admitted weak point for me. I suppose the argument that I'm making (along with a few others in this chat) Is that we will only ever really reach the revolutionary soul. The very thing that is a repellent to the average bald ape will act as bait to those souls accustomed to & comfortable with acting outside of the accepted norms, the revolutionary. My favorite part of Siege comes to mind "The crazy men of destiny"
That's who I'm on the look for.

I believe I'm talking to one of them now.

I wasn't talking.

Haha

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"To destroy the System is primary. To destroy the System without destroying ourselves is desirable. But with the System destroyed a new Age of Man can begin. One that can contain true justice and equitable solutions for all people. The Movement has always possessed sheaves of programs and ideas for building the Ideal State. But until the System is destroyed, by whatever means necessary, none of these fine plans will ever amount to anything more than a dream."

"If you suicide bomb you get 40 virgins from allah in utopia," that's what I've heard Muslims believe.

Destroying the system must be done on a psychological level first and foremost. The mind is a battlefield.

Does this fucking thing work or is this gonna be another thing that doesn't work?

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The power of the system is derived from people's ignorance/acceptance of it more so than from actual physical power.

^^^ I'm entertaining a different idea about this. I wrote about it a little bit the other day and probably will again, but now for now the important the for you to remember is that you are wrong, mkay?😀

@DJ Maci that truly is the question, isn't it?

I mean, you're right in that the people's fears are not confined to the prospects of physical violence and imprisonment, although those are certainly present for those of us who are more vociferous in our dissent. The fears of the masses lie further upstream in consciousness.

Most upstream of all is probably the prospect of social ostracisation (especially powerful over women), but having far reaching subconscious effects on women of both sexes.

This relates directly to the effects of enemy propaganda. It's not that they tell us what to think. It's that they tell us what our neighbors think. They tell us what "everybody else" thinks. And, most importantly, they tell us what the cool kids think. That's power because people fear failure, the appearance of failure and the ostracism that accompanies it. From an evolutionary standpoint ostracism from the tribe was not far removed from a death sentence. People fear it on a deeply unconscious level and they are perfectly capable of developing neurotic defense mechanisms for coping with it. They train themselves to systematically banish all thoughts (and therefore words) that would lead to transgression and it's fatal consequences. These, my friends, are the boundaries we must strive to publicly violate in order to free our racial kinsman from their mental enslavement.

"Destroying the system must be done on a psychological level first and foremost. The mind is a battlefield." Yep.