@Deleted User So the state owns your apartment?

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>I'm not advocating for it, I'm just saying that it's the ideal system and I want it implemented

It depends @franti I think we should take steps towards a social democracy now and then socialism and end there

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Does the state own my Mosin which I have to protect me against filthy Commies?

I think you should emigrate @Deleted User

@Deleted User Now I want you think about this real
What happens with people who refuse to give up their property?

If the U.K. started to take my shit I’m out

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@franti you won’t have to force them.

Sorry to flood you while others are addressing you, zaddy, but I think it's important I say It'd be helpful to exactly what it is you're advocating for, so we're on the same page (first rule to a civil discussion). And I don't see what debunks the incentive argument, for that matter.
Like you say socialism, so what does that entail in your book?

I think zaddy wants socialism :v

Why do leftists actually believe this?

Oh we won't have people violently resisting when we take their shit.

Then basically no one I’ll give up their property

You absolutely have to
If you want the workers to own it you have to do it universaly

Because they think the people in charge will be as moral as they think they are themselves

I like the idea of socialism but for now I’m a social democratic. I don’t really have a choice since I live in the US

All barmaids want $15 an hour

Zaddy you can move to Venezuela

Not in a rude way btw

Yeah, I know Z said that, but everyone's got their own definition of these things. Not that I like socialism in any incarnation, but it helps to know what someone else is thinking.

Well she's be a millionaire in Venezuela

to be fair

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I mean, fuck me, I work at McD's and I hate that I'm getting paid $11 an hour. Just because it means that the dipshit high schoolers that don't show up to work half the time also get $11 an hour.

Pro tip looking at Sweden who were 4th richest country then brought in their harsh tax policies now where are they by comparison

@franti no, because it won’t happen like Soviet Union under Stalin, it has to first be done through capitalism then socialism

That's what they always say

And it always ends badly

"We're gonna do it right this time"

Ending at socialism as well

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@Deleted User social democrat are just pussy socialists

you wont have to force them, because in the utopia everyone will be cool with it. right kaden?

No, the soviets did it right the first time, and that's what they got

Even in ideal conditions, what's so good about taking people's earnings and giving it to people who have not earned them?

Yeah, and that never happened did it Zaddy? That's why we got people like Lenin and Mussolini that had to force it.

You just said it freeman

@Deleted User scroll up I already said why