Message from @franti

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2018-10-29 17:37:55 UTC  

Wait, let's rewind and actually engage with zaddy instead of making memes. If everyone owns the means of production together, where's the structure to keep things efficient?

2018-10-29 17:38:02 UTC  

Do you have profits to amkes more investments?

2018-10-29 17:39:23 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-29 17:40:18 UTC  

Erm, yeah to having profits?

2018-10-29 17:40:54 UTC  

Evening

2018-10-29 17:41:10 UTC  

"evening"

2018-10-29 17:41:14 UTC  

nigga wat

2018-10-29 17:41:32 UTC  

It's 17:41 hence it is evening

2018-10-29 17:41:33 UTC  

The “incentive” argument has already been debunked @Follow Doctor Freeman if that’s where you were going with your question, under communism (which I’m not totally advocating for) individuals don’t privately own property, it’s owned and controlled by the state

2018-10-29 17:41:33 UTC  

It’s 10 to 18:00

2018-10-29 17:41:44 UTC  

Well, technically afternoon but it's dark af

2018-10-29 17:42:00 UTC  

are you a bloody britbonger? @starrfoxx123

2018-10-29 17:42:22 UTC  

I have lived here most of my life so I guess so

2018-10-29 17:42:28 UTC  

@Deleted User So the state owns your apartment?

2018-10-29 17:42:38 UTC  

<:GWjiangPepeThumb:407619074466643978>

2018-10-29 17:43:07 UTC  

>I'm not advocating for it, I'm just saying that it's the ideal system and I want it implemented

2018-10-29 17:43:44 UTC  

It depends @franti I think we should take steps towards a social democracy now and then socialism and end there

2018-10-29 17:43:47 UTC  

What, communism? <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

2018-10-29 17:44:07 UTC  

Does the state own my Mosin which I have to protect me against filthy Commies?

2018-10-29 17:44:14 UTC  

I think you should emigrate @Deleted User

2018-10-29 17:44:46 UTC  

@Deleted User Now I want you think about this real
What happens with people who refuse to give up their property?

2018-10-29 17:45:11 UTC  

If the U.K. started to take my shit I’m out

2018-10-29 17:45:11 UTC  

💥 <:GWfroggyKermitReee:398569982406950922>

2018-10-29 17:45:38 UTC  

@franti you won’t have to force them.

2018-10-29 17:45:45 UTC  

Sorry to flood you while others are addressing you, zaddy, but I think it's important I say It'd be helpful to exactly what it is you're advocating for, so we're on the same page (first rule to a civil discussion). And I don't see what debunks the incentive argument, for that matter.
Like you say socialism, so what does that entail in your book?

2018-10-29 17:46:09 UTC  

I think zaddy wants socialism :v

2018-10-29 17:46:11 UTC  

Why do leftists actually believe this?

2018-10-29 17:46:24 UTC  

Oh we won't have people violently resisting when we take their shit.

2018-10-29 17:46:26 UTC  

Then basically no one I’ll give up their property

2018-10-29 17:46:33 UTC  

You absolutely have to
If you want the workers to own it you have to do it universaly

2018-10-29 17:46:37 UTC  

Because they think the people in charge will be as moral as they think they are themselves

2018-10-29 17:46:40 UTC  

I like the idea of socialism but for now I’m a social democratic. I don’t really have a choice since I live in the US

All barmaids want $15 an hour

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/506524306612682772/iu.png

2018-10-29 17:46:59 UTC  

Zaddy you can move to Venezuela

2018-10-29 17:47:07 UTC  

Not in a rude way btw

2018-10-29 17:47:22 UTC  

Yeah, I know Z said that, but everyone's got their own definition of these things. Not that I like socialism in any incarnation, but it helps to know what someone else is thinking.

Well she's be a millionaire in Venezuela

to be fair

2018-10-29 17:47:35 UTC  

<:GWfroggyPoggers:384871751441448970>

2018-10-29 17:47:37 UTC  

I mean, fuck me, I work at McD's and I hate that I'm getting paid $11 an hour. Just because it means that the dipshit high schoolers that don't show up to work half the time also get $11 an hour.

2018-10-29 17:47:46 UTC  

Pro tip looking at Sweden who were 4th richest country then brought in their harsh tax policies now where are they by comparison