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They are centrally planned though
yeah, it hasn't even gone all the way yet, and it's already fucked
I am in favor of opressive capitalist countries over socialist ones, yes.
says something doesn't it
No, answer my second question
Find my a liberal capitalist country that is oppressive to the standard of Venezuela
They are the clere definition of a centrally planned economy with the gov owning the means.
We're not syaing you're in favor of it, we're saying it ends that way regardless. @Deleted User
I think that Ghana and Chile are demonstrably more successful than any Socialist shitholes.
I'll add that a government with the power to control everything the populace owns is going to cause problems, no matter how it's implemented.
A country that Corbyn said is a success for socialism
>OPPRESSIVE capitalist countries
Name one then
Doesn't mean I support them, it means that I think that they're far less fucking horrible.
Actual oppression
Not fake leftist oppression
Government involvement doesn’t mean government controlling everything,
Nice mental gymnastics
When Oil was $100 a barrel Venezuela was a model of Socialism, referred to by every Commie you met
Except. once again, that's how it always ends.
But you want governemnt to control everything
lol wrong
They're not socialist, you dumbass.
fuck you're economically illiterate
@Deleted User 1 those coubtries already said they arnt socialist to bernie remember.
Calling me a dumbass, wew ive been rekt
2 those countries are failing eith their own model anyway
Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland literally has no minimum wage. @Deleted User
Its cracking and buckling
The scandanavian countries are rich precisely because they don't have **much regulation** in the first place
Okay, I never said they were socialist. Their government is still involved in almost everything
Norway had to ask Bernie sanders to stop calling them socialist cuz they are capitalists
Socialist miss the point when someone try to point at socialist countries.
The point is not that your branch of socialist has failed, the point is that everytime someone try it the system collapses
HMMMM
No, no it isn't
DID I SAY THEY WERE SOCIALIST?
If government has the power to control all mans of production and income and what you own (if that's what you're advocating, correct me if I'm wrong), then, yes, they have too much power.
Also, other guys, let's just engage here. No one's mind was ever changed by being called names.
We are talking about government, no?
you said they're rich because of their regulations
which is flat out wrong