Message from @Jax the Clackker

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2018-11-09 20:01:19 UTC  

Probably correct, yes

2018-11-09 20:02:16 UTC  

Only need a bullet. Boom. Cost is greatly reduced.

2018-11-09 20:02:19 UTC  

how does the state have the ability to arbitrate on property disputes without monopoly on force?

2018-11-09 20:02:55 UTC  

I don't know, seems to do that just fine.

2018-11-09 20:03:36 UTC  

if the state didn't have monopoly on force, any arbitration would be mute.

2018-11-09 20:03:44 UTC  

because it would have no means to enforce it.

2018-11-09 20:03:45 UTC  

@Jax the Clackker Because we gave it that authority

2018-11-09 20:04:17 UTC  

The monopoly on force is held in commons by the citizenry

2018-11-09 20:04:32 UTC  

Thus, the 2nd amendment

2018-11-09 20:05:00 UTC  

then there's nothing wrong with vigilantism right?

2018-11-09 20:05:03 UTC  

<:GWfroggyPepoThink:400751114221256705>

2018-11-09 20:05:10 UTC  

Define vigilantism

2018-11-09 20:06:06 UTC  

civilians performing law enforcement without legal authority

2018-11-09 20:07:06 UTC  

define without <:GWfroggyBlobWokeThink:398570327942365195>

2018-11-09 20:07:06 UTC  

"A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate."

2018-11-09 20:07:54 UTC  

Legal authority is a pretty grey area, tbh.

Like, at what level is the cutoff at which the state should have ultimate control over the investigation process and detainment?

2018-11-09 20:08:20 UTC  

What about private detectives? Or armed guards?

2018-11-09 20:08:53 UTC  

both of those require a license tho

2018-11-09 20:09:18 UTC  

And then what about tieing up a burglar in your home when he breaks in?

2018-11-09 20:09:57 UTC  

that's self defence, also sanctioned government violence.

2018-11-09 20:10:04 UTC  

depending where you are of course.

2018-11-09 20:10:42 UTC  

we still get some fuckery where people defending themselves are prosecuted in the uk

2018-11-09 20:10:53 UTC  

that's always grade a bullshit.

2018-11-09 20:11:08 UTC  

I guess then it all comes down to the agreed upon law enforcement practices of the geographic area in which you're in, agreed upon by its residents

2018-11-09 20:11:53 UTC  

the populace allows the government to have monopoly on force in a democracy, but the government still has monopoly on force though.

2018-11-09 20:12:33 UTC  

As long as the citizenry allows it, sure.

*Theoretically*

2018-11-09 20:12:58 UTC  

relevant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/510547369683582994/unknown.png

2018-11-09 20:12:59 UTC  

well if they don't it's a dictatorship

2018-11-09 20:13:49 UTC  

well, not necessarily dictatorship, authoritarian for sure.

2018-11-09 20:14:20 UTC  

anyway, i gotta go gym before it closes up, good chat @Fitzydog

2018-11-09 20:15:43 UTC  

👌

2018-11-09 20:17:55 UTC  

@franti do you have that volunteer rate but for slovakia?

2018-11-09 20:19:32 UTC  

@Fitzydog 404 page not found

2018-11-09 20:21:26 UTC  

Fuck it

2018-11-09 20:21:28 UTC  

<:GWfroggyMonkaMega:405753064100986880>

2018-11-09 20:21:44 UTC  

I hate the fucking new internet

2018-11-09 20:22:03 UTC  

internet 2 <:GWfroggyPepoThink:400751114221256705>

2018-11-09 20:22:14 UTC  

that's a fact tho

2018-11-09 20:22:39 UTC  

@Fitzydog if i don't have a wife then who's boyfriend are you <:GWfroggyMonkaMega:405753064100986880>

2018-11-09 20:22:41 UTC  

this might be internet 3 or something actually