if trans women want to be women, then okay fair enough but if that's the case then "women" needs be changed to be some overarching term that encompasses both "biological women" and "trans women"

as a result, "women" as a group should be afforded all basic human rights

No what you just said is absolutely not true Notorious

but "biological women" should have different treatment to "trans women"

traps are gay

segregation in areas where natural women would be vulnerable

Women = everyone who identifies as feminine Man = everyone who identifies as masculine

literally no issue at all

thats the dumbest stance on earth

why

it is the product of delusion

@legio If you're talking about expanding the term "biological man" or "biological woman" I do actually have an issue.

just because you want it to be true does not make it so

@MountainMan Nope only the gender terms.

what is the point of expanding

then natural women and trans women are both "women" by the new definition, but they get treated differently according to the nature of their biology

@legio Well then. I dont agree, nor do I disagree with you.

i am never calling a faggot in a dress a woman, period

how do you know its genuine? and what if not, bigot?

https://imgur.com/s6xmXiI

Notorious what does that mean?

@M4Gunner I'm trying to come up with some kind of workable compromise, I'm not saying I agree with this proposal

its some biological women + some biological men but what brings them together is that they all identify as feminine

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/348304107775197186/525813767393509377/No_f14ee02fe281f7de0a769fc7399e6453.gif

i think the best compromise is ignoring the guy in the dress

lol

Hi

he can do whatever he wants, he's not shitting in the ladies room tho

hi alien @Den Röda Smurfen

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@Den Röda Smurfen hello

@legio about what

So when someone walks into the mens room and looks exactly like a woman you'd have an issue with that?

@MountainMan hejhej

Suddenly on the Titanic everyone identifies as women and wanted into the life boats, trans women succeeded, brave display of the female spirit

because thats exactly what doing it by biology would cause

idgaf what they *look* like

appearance is not *being*

are you slow

do you have a frail grasp on reality