no one can give me a satisfactory answer

no, the shape of your plug defines your pleasure

Well, are you an atheist?

Only you can get an answer

thus i reject morality as having any sort of firm foundation

dont be a child, you choose your morality

?

Before one can answer what is good, one must answer what is God

yes

you wanna us to choose your dinner and next job?

@blanc
thats an argument about groups and social relationships..
It doesnt affect pleasure or anti-pleasure

yes

What's for dinner, @blanc?

Should I quit my job

Maybe

pleasure is not the objective

jeez

@blanc

The group is a pleasure... its a social pleasure
you want to belong with nice people
and you avoid bad people.

why would you do that? @fuguer

well thats a very wide perception of pleasure

One must move out of one's Mom's house before deciding if it's good or bad to quit one's job.

So I can study particle physics full time

so you are against people doing things they dont like??

Quit ur job

And truly understand the meaning of life

Plato would argue to love doing good for it's own sake is most just

^

I hate to say so but this is why I dislike applying philosophical beliefs upon the principle that they are reasonable

But you must feed yourself, @fuguer

Even if it doesnt bring you pleasure, bettering yourself is important

Particles don't care if you starve

@fuguer I don't think so man. You are in a good career, maybe take a break or move if you need some time

Because virtue isn't saying anything which is necessarily malign or untrue, yet it could easily be used to justify acts which are

I have 4 mouths to feed + 1 dog + a dozen or so ducks

Pleasure and pride aren't the same thing

You can find a job where you work only 40 hours and make good money, and have time to do what you want

For now I make crazy good money I’d be nuts to leave

What kind of mouths? Like kids?

But life is finite too

Wife and kids yeah

Aristippus of Cyrene, never said poor people where bad.
He said that you have to deserve your own good world.
If you make effort, then good things will come to good people.
You deserve, your karma.