sexual hedonism is some modern 19th century thing
Indulging in pleasure is basically thinking short-term in the traditional sense. Thinking of yhe future's pleasure is what an accomplished human should strive for
that's more or less the german philosophy
what if my forebrain is so highly developed that i derive maximal pleasure from creating future pleasure
doing work good for works (god's) sake
Yes. But not only yours, but your own's
@fuguer , probably depends on one's eschatological beliefs
well pleasure defines the shapes of everything..
First you, then your family, race, people, species
no one can give me a satisfactory answer
no, the shape of your plug defines your pleasure
Well, are you an atheist?
Only you can get an answer
thus i reject morality as having any sort of firm foundation
dont be a child, you choose your morality
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Before one can answer what is good, one must answer what is God
yes
you wanna us to choose your dinner and next job?
@blanc thats an argument about groups and social relationships.. It doesnt affect pleasure or anti-pleasure
What's for dinner, @blanc?
Should I quit my job
Maybe
pleasure is not the objective
jeez
@blanc The group is a pleasure... its a social pleasure you want to belong with nice people and you avoid bad people.
why would you do that? @fuguer
well thats a very wide perception of pleasure
One must move out of one's Mom's house before deciding if it's good or bad to quit one's job.
So I can study particle physics full time
so you are against people doing things they dont like??
Quit ur job
And truly understand the meaning of life
Plato would argue to love doing good for it's own sake is most just
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I hate to say so but this is why I dislike applying philosophical beliefs upon the principle that they are reasonable
But you must feed yourself, @fuguer
Even if it doesnt bring you pleasure, bettering yourself is important
Particles don't care if you starve
@fuguer I don't think so man. You are in a good career, maybe take a break or move if you need some time
