Don't wanna continue the cycle ya feel

If you've just got the sniffles, that isn't an excuse.

Understandable

@Deleted User that's how the demons get you

@Wrath Father Ripperger is an Exorcist and he has videos on YT

@Helter Seltzer ☧ correct

Need to check my understanding here. Is a good tl;dr of sede logic, since John XXIII was a heretic, every pope/bishop/etc since he came into power invalid?

Stop worrying so much about whether or not whatever pope is considered a heretic for whatever. Heretics are people like Arius, or Luther, etc. Pope have been wrong and corrected all the time since Peter

Alexander VI

@Karu Vatican II is heresy and until it is revoked all Popes are complicit in heresy and therefore invalid.

Popes are not invalid because they defend something that is wrong

I don't agree with sedes

But that is what he wanted to know

Ah, I see, that was the sede logic

Yes

Me right now: <:wojakbrainlet1:510858664534474752>

Sedes are dumb too dw

You're still autism supreme in my eyes <3

They are just tired

>I don’t agree with sedes
>presents sedes argument

I was asking whether that was an accurate summation of their position, not whether sedeism is legit or not

She was precisely mentioning what were the sde arguments

Oh ok

Dumb dumb

There was this sede who lasted here like some hours who, when pressed, said that Paul was whatever because he contradicted Peter, and nobody can contradict the Pope because of course the Pope is always right

So he had no idea how papal infallibility works basically

Sedes are dumb lmao

but yeah, if that's what it boils down to, it involves a bunch of canon law stuff I don't have the standing to begin understanding

also, it would mean the church has fallen, so idk christ is a liar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Begome Ordodogs xDDD

Papal infallibility only applies when the Pope speaks Ex Cathedra, which is enforcing his authority as Vicar of Christ, often these results in Papal Bulls

right, which hasn't been done since 1950something

also:
>begome member of religion with zero unity and confusion everywhere
pls

Unsure, the last Bull that comes to mind is Ambulate in Dilectione

IT'S A MYSTERY

sounds like everything north of the priesthood has been mired in intrigue for decades and it's not worth the average catholic sparing a thought for

In my opinion, people have obsessed too much about all these legalistic things. Overall, I mostly guide myself by the councils that are declared ecumenical by the Pope

mm. And canon law as I understand it is not infalliable, divine, etc, it is mostly a guidebook on how the affairs of the church are organized

it interprets doctrine, it isn't doctrine itself

still - i'd be lying if I said nearly 70 years of garbage popes didn't give me some heartburn